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Need Help Identifying What Possibly Could Have Happen To This Dime

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Here I have a 2011 -P Roosevelt dime and I just happened to find it while working one day. On the front of the dime everything seem to be normal except the bottom portion of which is very faint. But, on the reverse side of the dime it's completely blank except for what looks to be a giant scrap on the top half and in the middle seems to be showing the core of the dime but I'll let you guys decide for yourself. Thank you so much

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Mistercoin, if you can get clearer pix it would help, again an overpolish or possibly a die cap. OR is the coin THINNER than normal? There is a bit of the copper showing on back, is either worn away on purpose (I think so)or is a weak strike if thin.



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wrong for a die cap...
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 Posted 07/12/2017  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The lack of finning on the obverse and the island of exposed copper on the reverse would indicate that the reverse face was probably ground off.
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Yep, grind marks, Thank Mike Diamond, hit another one on the head!

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The dime weights 2.1 grams and a normal one weights 2.2 on the same scale and as for the thickness here is a pic

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Not doubting, but just trying to learn... If the rev of the OP's coin had been sanded or ground down, wouldn't the rim be completely flat too? It kinda looks to me like the rev rim is somewhat intact.
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The rim is fully intact just sayin
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On the Rev side that is sorry
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The abrasion marks and exposure of the copper core leave no doubt that the reverse was effaced.
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If the rev of the OP's coin had been sanded or ground down, wouldn't the rim be completely flat too?


Yes -- IF a big grinder was used.

No -- If a little grinder was used -- like a dental tool or a jeweler's tool.

My guess is that someone was practicing with a tiny jeweler's tool.
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Like Buddy Said, small grinding tool DREMEL Rotary grinding head

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Areas to note on OP coin (YELLOW) seems a flattened edge like held in vise (BLUE) line where apparent bend beginning(see side view of bulging obverse) (RED) not all cladding removed, see definite division markings of grind
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Ok thx @buddy and @crazyb0. Clearly someone with lots of time on their hands.
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Yep, just defaced.



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Another possibility for removing the rev while leaving the rim is to put it in a lathe and then "carve" out the center area.
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Condor101: that is Exactly what happened to this (I know, my Uncle worked in a Tool & Die place, and make all sorts of marvelous things)
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