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Valued Member
United States
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I decided I wanted a roll of nickels yesterday. I purchased them online and I plan on opening them when they arrive. I'm not sure what to expect as far as condition. The only other original roll I've ever owned was a 1957 Wheat cent. So in your opinion, does this look like an original unopened roll of Jefferson nickels? They are supposed to be 1954-S    
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The wrapping machines, roll paper, and stamps are easy to get and not terribly expensive.
Having listened to hundreds of sad tales about the content of supposed unopened rolls, I simply believe all rolls and bags have been examined.
Ill be right far more times than I'm wrong.
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Valued Member
 United States
191 Posts |
I believe you're correct, moxking. For whatever reason, I just had to buy this. It called to me like a siren's song. I'll have to wait till it arrives to see if it's legitimate.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Let us know. I sincerely hope you get an MS-67 FS.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wonder why it says "UNC" on the side. A bank would never do that.
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Valued Member
United States
406 Posts |
aristarchus- that was probably done by the seller, which does not necessarily mean that it was searched.
Let us know what you find!
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Rest in Peace
United States
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You see the fuzziness at the end of the roll , that was most likely intentionally done with a wire brush to make it look like an old roll . Also that end coin just doesn't look unc. to me . 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks original to me.
But even original rolls can be checked. Usually when these are found there are substantial numbers of the same date. All you have to do is check a few rolls for varieties and Gems and if there are none you can be pretty sure there aren't any in the other rolls either.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks genuine to me. The end toning matches the roll and is expected for that roll type. This was during the peak of the roll-hoarding craze in the mid 50s, where average Joes and Janes across the country were stacking bank-fresh rolls of Jeffersons, Washingtons, Lincolns and Roosevelts in their closets, drawers and safes. Between the mid 30s and mid 60s roll-collecting was a Big Thing, spurred on by dealers who heavily promoted the idea that lower-mintage issues would be worth a fortune in the future.
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Valued Member
United States
79 Posts |
All you guys know a lot more about grading than I do but, disregarding the toning, does that look like an uncirculated coin or is the glare fooling me?
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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How much are you into it for?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
505 Posts |
I agree with moxking. I think that most if not all rolls have been looked through. Motivated sellers can turn anything like rewrapping into an art form. However, every collector/dealer looks for different things. I find when I buy rolls (only when a good deal never about how the roll looks) there's never those key dates but I almost always find an error of some sort.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't think anyone can blame us for always being on guard and suspicious of the OBW rolls, I agree with those mentioning sellers of rolls have become very artistic and prone to create their own original looking rolls, but at the same token when you look at a roll like this,walla, yes it does look original,doesn't it? but you can never tell if it has been checked for errors or not! so the rule of thumb: try to buy from a trusted seller,there are plenty of them out there who are honest and do not cheat!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If ... this is an untampered with, original BU roll, which I cannot say, the reason it would interest me is the possibility of steps. That would be the reason for me to buy an original bank roll of 40 uncirculated 1953 S Jeffersons. The odds of finding a full 5 step 1953 S are 1 in 5000 coins. Mathematically, getting 40 coins, reduces the odds to 1 in 125. However, I would want to see an image of the other end of the roll. Chances are, your nickels will all look like these inside.   If you see the other end image and it happens to show a reverse with the basically the same toning as the one shown in the first post here, that would help a lot. If that coin looks anything like the typical images I posted here of typical 1953 S reverses, they will all probably look like that. Even legitimate unc roll sellers know that if they have several rolls from the same source, lets say, these 1953 S American Trust Bank of San Francisco rolls, opening one roll will tell you what the rest of the rolls will look like inside. They came from the same production run at the mint. A savvy seller can open one roll, know what to expect in his other 5 or 10 he might have and honestly sell them as an unsearched "uncirculated roll" but already have a real good idea of what the rest look like inside. If you get an image of the other end, and it has any trace of steps on the end coin and it is showing the reverse, the odds go up some. If it looks like one in the images I show, the odds increase a lot more than 1 in 125 that they are all duds regarding steps. A LOT! But, any 1953 S with just a couple steps to a few is still a great find as they are quite scarce as well.
Edited by TNG 08/11/2017 11:10 am
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Valued Member
 United States
191 Posts |
ok everyone, the moment of truth. The roll came in the mail today. I photographed it as I was opening the package and later the roll. I could be wrong but my opinion was this roll was previously opened and searched. The first pictures are of the roll itself. You should see a red flag here immediately.  End 1. Looks perfectly normal.    End 2. Very suspect. Shows tampering. Here is the first look at the opened roll. And all of them laid out in order as they were in the roll.  Continued in next post.
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Bedrock of the Community
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