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New Member
Estonia
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Hello! Found this coin from grandfathers collection. Remarkable is that if you turn the coin, the other side is 180 degrees flipped (wrong side - see from pictures). I'm not a big enthusiast, but this coin got my attention, so I decided to learn more about this. Could you give some advice or reading materials, where I can continue my research of price, origin and other stories. As for now, I know it's 1799 silver USA Trade dollar.    Edited by Idoru
08/19/2017 02:48 am
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Moderator
 United States
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Sorry, but you can't post pictures from dropbox. Try uploading the image on your post. US Trade dollars were produced 1873 - 1885, so unsure what you have without pictures. |
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Moderator
United States
14463 Posts |
Good pictures  Like mentioned above, US Trade dollars were produced 1873 - 1885, so yours is not a real coin, unfortunately. It is a Fantasy / Counterfeit piece. |
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New Member
 Estonia
6 Posts |
Thank you!
I have watched probably all the Google pictures and posts about it for now and as it seems, there are mostly counterfeits (1799 liberty coin - but it's only from head - not sitting).
So is it worth anything or just a piece of silver?
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Moderator
United States
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You don't really know if it IS silver, and unless you test it you have no way in telling its purity.
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New Member
Estonia
6 Posts |
Hi again!
I used magnet on it, and it did not stick, so I assumed. Are there any better ways or I should weight it/some chemical test?
(Sorry for my poor English, it's not my native language)
Cheers!
Arko
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Moderator
United States
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You can compare the measurements on the page linked above. You can also see examples of other fantasy coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
12477 Posts |
Look here for an explanation of a Specific Gravity Test. Also, take note of the link to Swamperbob's post concerning this: http://goccf.com/t/39666Beyond powerful XRF, the SG test is useful and can be accomplished at home as long as you have an accurate scale. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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New Member
Estonia
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United States
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Maybe he can add some cool story to it, to make it more valuable :') This is a fake coin where the counterfeiters used a date that was never used on genuine Trade dollars. In my photo archives, I have photos of Trade dollars dated 1791-CC, 1791-S, 1796-CC, 1797, 1797-CC, 1798-CC, 1799-S (like yours), 1871, 1871-CC, 1872, 1872-CC, 1879-CC, 1879-S, 1881-S, 1882-CC, 1882-S, 1883-CC, 1884-CC and 1885-CC. These are made to sell by street vendors or at flea markets to unsuspecting buyers thinking they are getting a bargain. What you have is currently available online for about $2 from certain Chinese sellers and that includes FREE shipping from China (which means they are "worth" less than 10¢). It is most assuredly brass or other base metal with a silver wash or plating (meaning virtually no silver). No story is going to make this fake coin "more valuable". Its proper place is in the garbage can. |
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United States
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 to CCF Arko. It is not a real coin. The only thing you have going for it is the story and that it is from your grandfather. Do not trash can it. Put it in a 2x2 and label it properly, as a fake and that it is from your grandfather's collection. A family keepsake. John1  |
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United States
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 , With john1 .  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Same here. to the CCF! |
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United States
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Put it in a 2x2 and label it properly, as a fake and that it is from your grandfather's collection. A family keepsake. Agreed 100% to the Community! |
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Valued Member
United States
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Cool coin. I spotted it in less than a few seconds. But, it's still a great coin because it was Gramp's coin. Welcome!
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It is amusing to me how often a fake coin is from Grandfathers collection. Its got to the point that I think all grandfathers are corrupt and any coin described as from grandfather I would run from ^^ Maybe my own grandfather was the only guy to leave real coins behind.
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Posted 08/19/2017 02:28 am
