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Thoughts on grade and problems? Thanks!   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I'm not a grader. But my first thoughts after seeing the coin are: Detailed, Recolored. Some folks would say, toning. I'm thinking tampered with in some way. JMHO BTW: I hate going first!!  Edited by USSID18
09/02/2017 11:39 am
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64, but must admit the coloring is unusual - almost too good to be true.
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Was wondering about the week right arrow shaft and lack of details on some of the leaves. Is that mark on the 4 or the case?
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Is that mark on the 4 or the case? I was thinking the same thing. Is this coin slabbed? It's hard for me to tell. They are good pictures though. Although, they do look like slab scratches. The line across the bottom of GOD and the bottom of the E in WE. |
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it is in a PCGS slab
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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it is in a PCGS slab Oh, okay thanks. Great pictures for being in a slab! |
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PCGS graded it MS-63RB I'll bet.  |
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Looks blue inked and toasted, really don't like that "toning" at all! Ugh! Wonder if it happened after slabbing?  |
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The combination of the toning (looks natural and similar to how bronze IHC's tone) and the above-average strike (with dies that were not clashed or otherwise badly failing) is very attractive and scarcer than the usually seen weakly-struck examples with numerous cracks, chips, Cuds, and other defects. A lone die crack on the reverse through the bottoms of "ATE" is the only indication that the dies were not fresh, but this is definitely an early strike. I am on the fence between BN / RB but not on the fence about eye appeal, toning, or lack of wear; my grade MS 64 RB. This is a keeper. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
09/02/2017 8:10 pm
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RB. Wondering how toning can be considered a condition? Either a copper coin is considered by a legitimate Grading service as RED, RED-BROWN, or BROWN! |
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This was graded MS64BN by PCGS. It was offered for $160 and someone bought it while I was thinking of buying it.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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