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Thoughts on grade and problems? Thanks!   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks more like wear and less about the strike. VF-30
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Bedrock of the Community
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I do think there is a strike issue here - I think it makes EF-40. Nice coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I like this coin and wish I could afford them this pretty -- I'm going to go with AU50.
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Well, the major problem here is it's in your collection and not mine.  O-108, I think, R.3 and known for the center stripes in the shield being soft so that can be somewhat discounted as a grading pickup. A much stronger obverse than reverse, which is understandable since this was, by then, the second use of that reverse. O-107 developed a serious die crack from Star 2, curving through the bust and across the 9, and that die undoubtedly failed prematurely as it can be found sharply-struck with the die crack fully developed. I have it at EF-45, grading mostly by the obverse. |
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Agree with EF-45. This is a beautiful coin. What are the horizontal stripes in the middle of the obverse through the first and second stars and the Bust? Is this on the coin or holder? I love the colors!
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Bedrock of the Community
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They look like planchet filing marks to adjust the weight of the planchet to me.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
09/03/2017 12:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I think XF-45, beautiful toning.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think 1819 is too late to see adjustment marks.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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They could be roller marks. Tough to distinguish.
The mint employed planchet weight and adjustment staff until well after the Civil War. Later in the 19th century, filing took place more often in the edges before reeding was applied.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
09/03/2017 12:54 pm
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PCGS called it XF45. Seller wanted a premium for the toning and eye appeal that I thought was fair, but a little more than I wanted to pay.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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