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For $23.50 it was coming home. Seller pics. Any thoughts on grade?   Edited by edweather 09/04/2017 07:19 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Honestly it looks like a cull. Why something like this would be slabbed is beyond me. The reverse looks better and that green crud is detracting.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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G-04 Details . For $23.50 it would have stayed right where it was . Eddie this is not you , what happened to your thumbs down problem coins . 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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2/3 horn, F-12. Looks like a strike through error and not PMD.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I kinda like it, with the "war paint" issue. I think it will grade VG10 details. Hope it is a strike through, looking at the larger image, it does not look like a scratch. Getting a key date like this graded is worth settling the curiosity.
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Pillar of the Community
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VG 8 - Obv Strike through - Mint Error
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Moderator
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I have it at F12 in the slab; there's enough horn for it to resemble similar TPG results in that grade. Makes it a $100+ coin if so, and rather a decent deal at $23.50. :) Even at VG10 it was had for half price at worst. I cannot see the obverse as anything except a strikethrough. It seems to me that any postmint accident resulting in a scar like this would noticeably move metal out of the way, and I see no evidence of such. Yeah, at $23.50 this one would have come home with me too. 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Although the horn indicates a Fine grade, the date and overall obverse indicate a Good grade. The date is barely fully visible. The scar looks like a strike through and I cannot determine if it adds or detracts from eye appeal. I suspect that will vary from person to person, but it could have been much worse if for example it was truck through vertically across the face. Worn obverse puts it at vg8 for me, and barely better than g6.
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Pillar of the Community
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I have scar face at F do to over all ware
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Bedrock of the Community
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Mint error or not, the coin lacks eye appeal to me.
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VG strike through. I'll have to agree that the eye appeal isn't great, but for $23 it's a great buy.
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Thanks for the comments. ANACS called it a lamination, are they wrong? Am not that familiar with strike through vs a lamination. Will post the grade tomorrow am.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree completely with @numismaticstudent. The smooth edges of the indent do suggest a strike-through rather than a lamination. As to the grade, regardless of the horn, the date is really only 80% visible or so. Personally, I would grade it G-06, and worth less than G-06 money given its disfigured appearance. 
Edited by Coinfrog 09/03/2017 8:13 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: As to the grade, regardless of the horn, the date is really only 80% visible or so. Personally, I would grade it G-06, I agree with Mr Frog - horn looks 08 but then you have a badly worn date that would get 04 if you are lucky. G06 on a good day - forget the strike through, even more to lessen the eye appeal.
Edited by Mark1959 09/03/2017 8:13 pm
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Quote: ANACS called it a lamination, are they wrong? What is going on with ANACS lately? Did you see the post from USSID18 on his ANACS 70 2013 ASE? So right now I'de hate to waste the money sending coins into them for grading. Check it out, http://goccf.com/t/295747
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With all the wear, couldn't it be a lamination worn smooth? It doesn't really matter to me either way, lamination or strike through, they're both mint errors, just asking the question.
Edited by edweather 09/03/2017 10:01 pm
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