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I had a grade in mind and saw one graded by NGC as AU-55 and figured I had mine all wrong

1875-S-20¢-Piece

1875-S-20¢-Piece

Here is the one in the NGC slab http://cgi.ebay.com/1875-S-Seated-L...GC_W0QQitemZ380022634314QQihZ025QQcategoryZ149932QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 05/03/2008  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd go with AU-50 or AU-53. LIBERTY is not completely sharp but that is typical for 20-centers that have seen any circulation at all. I'd even go AU-55 but the fields seem to have quite a bit of friction compared to the protected areas around the stars and legends.

The centers on both sides seem pretty bright but I don't see any obvious cleaning evidence so maybe it's just the lighting. I think you have a keeper!
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the lighting definitely made me see things I didn't see with my loupe, heck I never even noticed the die crack on the Reverse until I looked at the pictures. Your grade is what I thought this one graded out to until I saw that turd in the NGC slab then I questioned my initial thought
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 Posted 05/04/2008  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd have to go with Choice AU on this; dipped at one time, but looks nice. Much luster left? I have one that is an overdipped AU58 with all the luster stripped off.
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the luster looks very good on it on the places thats not covered with toning the lighting makes it look more washed out than it looks in hand
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 Posted 05/04/2008  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here is another picture of the same coin, different lighting and different camera (this is the camera I usually use for coins)

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 Posted 05/08/2008  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nelrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would have said AU58 as well, however I can see what you are saying about the NGC you posted. Yours has much more detail and a better looking coin overall. I can't see how they can call that AU55...nice 20 center. I would say if the one NGC is AU55 yours is at least MS62! I need to look mine over and/or send them to NGC! LOL
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Bryan the skin looks original in the pics. Is there an old cleaning evident? Ironic that you post this, I just PMed Prethen on the same coin a day or two ago. The one I looked at is in very similar detail as yours except cleaned. Prethen gave me sound advise.

I won't venture a grade as I am too new to the type to try. Nice coin.

They were asking $160 for the one I was looking at, how does this compare?

Jim
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 Posted 05/08/2008  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't even remember what I paid for this one, I don't even really remember where I got it from. As far as cleaning goes I do not see any sign of any type of cleaning but it may have been dipped some time in its life but it wasn't harshly cleaned or anything. I just can't believe someone paid over $300.00 for that coin in that NGC slab, because to me it is grossly overgraded
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Your coin looks AU50-55 to me.Eagles toes are still sharp & clear, with only slight wear showing on his right talon.Clasp & stars are still strong.Very nice coin.
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AU-55 to AU-58. There does seem to be too much going on in the fields to be MS, but overall the coin is a beauty. I would not doubt a minute that some TPG's would slab that coin as MS-62-63. Nice.
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 Posted 05/09/2008  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The die crack by U in United on reverse and the rim Cud at date on obverse gives this coin added character MS-63 Beauty!
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