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Bedrock of the Community
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I thought this was an interesting item. Keeping score or cheating at cards?   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
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Never saw anything like that - How does it work?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Does the inside spin around?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Interesting and still definitely a keeper, but not much more than bullion value, unless a provable numismatic significance can be demonstrated.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like this is what the interior mechanicals looked like. Apparently it was used to keep track of tricks in whist and bridge, the card games. Prior to these mechanical devices, people used chips as counters for tricks. 
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: but not much more than bullion value, unless a provable numismatic significance can be demonstrated. I don't mean to be mean or anything, but this coin is probably worth more than one without the modification.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 If numismatic student's theory is correct, then certainly this would be the case. It does seem difficult to imagine such a spinning device inside this coin, but perhaps a view of the edge would be helpful. My question would be - why hollow out a coin for this purpose, rather than building it from scratch?
Edited by Coinfrog 09/16/2017 7:24 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It's a truly unusual piece. I'd love one of those in my TD collection and sure pay a lot more than bullion.
Really cool. Congratulations.
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Quote: but not much more than bullion value, Maybe if the mechanics were missing and all you had was the machined coin - but as a whole I'm sure (like others have stated) there would be quite a market for that piece.
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Valued Member
United States
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was it some type of a cheating device?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It will sell for a LOT more than bullion value when all is said and done!
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"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
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Bedrock of the Community
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 That's very cool. I'd love to own one but, I'm pretty sure it's going to get out of my price range real quick! 
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Perhaps I was a little harsh; it IS after all a Trade dollar, and if it were mine, I would be certainly be keeping it. 
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