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 Posted 10/15/2017  09:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Mrzllewellyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Could it even be possible for these rolls to be unsearched? I'm new to this I want to buy some rolls but I want to find something that I'm not going to get completely ripped off just a little or not at all. But seller states they are unsearched wheat rolls
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 Posted 10/15/2017  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 999fine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Likely unsearched after being put in rolls.
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 Posted 10/15/2017  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrzllewellyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So you are pretty much saying unsearched after last time they were searched?
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 Posted 10/15/2017  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most of the sellers I ask about this say that they don't search for varieties or errors. They have almost certainly been searched by date and mintmark. But, if you are concerned you should contact the seller. If the price is right, I would take a chance especially if you are looking for the minor varieties.

Edit: I will let you know that I bought two rolls of "unsearched" wheats at the last show I attended. I got one corroded '43 and the rest were multiples of 1941, 1944, 51d, 53d 55, 57, 58, and 58d. Definitely not random. I will discuss this with the seller when I see him at the next show.
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For a roll to contain ONLY wheat cents they generally would have to be rolled before 1959. Otherwise they are "searched" out and separated from other cents.

Someone tell me the undisputed definition of "unsearched" when it specifically comes to coins. Definition: "not searched, examined, or investigated" but for WHAT? The vast majority of ads for "unsearched" coins never state what they supposedly didn't search for.

This is an OPINION of unsearched wheat cents...
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Unsearched-...99893/g.html

I just went to ebay and picked a random "unsearched Wheat cent" listing.

Here is part of the description:

"I can promise that I never looked at these coins and have no interest in doing so." immediately followed by "there are P D AND S Cents, steel cents, earlier dates , etc."

If they never looked at the coins, how can they say anything about will be included?
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"Unsearched" may truly mean "by me" like stated "for errors". I have sold some that way and have stated as such. This was before I knew really what to be looking for. It is daily sure these have been "searched" at least once before, generally many times, yea had to put in tubes by kind(searched) and just where did he "come across" this many wheat cents. I come across about 5-15 LWCs in each box of coins I look thru, have any idea how long it would take to get those, that could be said of as unsearched? I estimated in 3 years I gleaned maybe 2000, 70 or less were "uncommon" dates. Now I have found many with RPMs, one DDO, it is this mix that maybe called truly unsearched. Guarantee you that seller has checked for the 1955 DDO! If he hasn't, shouldn't be involved with doing!

BTW, tubes w/ screw-on caps are a newer "thang"!

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 Posted 10/15/2017  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't search them so technically he can say unsearched.
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Unless some old man walks down from a mountain with 100 year old tin can full of wheat cents that he inherited from his father, I assume that the "unsearched" means "unsearched by YOU".

Granted that many are unsearched for minor varieties, as stated in auctions, but if you are using ebay, smartphones, computers, etc, then you will probably not going to find any key dates from these rolls. After all, most sellers in ebay are trying to make some profit.
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I am too much of a cynic to ever buy something like this.
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Gamblers and the greedy are always the easiest marks.
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I am too much of a cynic to ever buy something like this.
I have to agree.
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 Posted 10/18/2017  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qaman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just ask what that means. For an example I have a large glass ketchup bottle I put all my wheats in when I was a teenager many many years ago (45) and I did not know to look at the dates so I guess they are kind of un-searched. I really need to go back through them some day.
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 Posted 10/18/2017  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrzllewellyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He said he grabs every wheat he finds from his draw at work and has been putting them in tubes he has 11 tubes and wants 5 dollars a roll that is a little steep I think because if he knows enough to say they are unsearched he has to know what dates to pull out if they are worth anything but there might be some errors. I also found a guy that wants 85 bucks for 150 IHC LWC and Buffalo nickels I don't know the condition really but he says there are a few odd looking ones meaning errors maybe? And he would throw in a 3 pound bag of wheats he got from his job when he was younger he just through in a bag but he got the collection 18 years ago of the pennies and nickels. I don't know if that is a decent price for all those or not. He said there were about 20 Indian heads from 1890 to 1906 and the rest were wheats and buffalo's about half and half
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As one of our fellow forum members once put it: 'unsearched means unsearched by you!' and I think that pretty much sums it up.

$5 a roll (or tube) is madness. The coins are worth 1 cent each in everyday life or 2 cents in metal value. There are still heaps of wheat cents around. Even I have hundreds of them and I don't even live in the US. And indeed, I even got a few in change when visiting the US.

Odd looking might also mean: run over by an army of tractors and buried in the soil for 50 years, before being dug up again and harshly cleaned with vinegar. Trust me, a coin looks odd then.

One tip: never go for a story, go for a coin. In the end what you buy is a coin, not a story.
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Pretty good UltraRant!
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I bought $60.00 worth of wheat's rolled and sorted by date and mint mark. My local dealer had them in an ammo can and wanted to be rid of them. He bought all of them at an estate sell years ago, went through them for the 20's and 30's and there they sat. I gave $100.00 for them. He laughed and said he wished he had time to search a second time then handed them over.
Here's what I found worth mentioning.
1. 1955 D DDO F'S-101 AU-55.
2.1944 S 1DO-001 AU-55.
3. 1944 1DR-005 AU-58 (nice thick doubling on reverse).
4. 1943 D 1DO-007.
5.1956 D RPM-002 north.
6.1953 D WRPM x2 xeach
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