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Do Eric Newman Coins Deserve A Premium?

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Eric Newman is still alive. His bio is worth reading.
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One of his boys started Mad magazine and the other makes salad dressings.
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Dorado, that link leads to a virtual coin encyclopedia. Can't imagine him owning all that stuff! (And, I never left the colonials.)


Join first :
https://www.NGCcoin.com/join/

And after you can see his entire collection.

Eric P. Newman Collection
NGC-certified selections from the remarkable collection of Eric P. Newman, one of the greatest numismatists of all time.

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"Alfred Neuman" (not Newman) is not the same as Eric Newman (not R.I.P.) or Paul Newman (R.I.P.)

...a shlimazl, a maven, and a mensch!

Many of the Newman coins were quite worthy of the special attention they received from TPG's, but some were not.

I have two (a Bust half and a Barber dime) and both have superior eye appeal in their grades, but that is not the case for all of them.

Therefore, my answer would be "it depends on the coin" -- that's a good answer, really, no matter what the label says...





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Sure hope so! My first 1782 8R is a Mo with chopmarks.

I am of the opinion that the long term value of coins is the history they represent. Not only the political history from which they were minted, but the coins individual history that has it in someone's hand today. Do I think certain provenanxes mean something? As for a numerical value, I think it depends on the coin, with many coins simply selling faster as the premium.

The really high end stuff I doubt will have one through, that stuff usually has provenance to some notable collector anyways, so if not Mr Newman, someone else.
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I know Alfred E. Newman, but who is Eric Newman and why might someone be interested in coins he previously owned?


Eric Newman, who is now 106 years old, is the most important living numismatist. He's the only living man who has owned all five 1913 Liberty nickels (at the same time!). His list of published works is too large for a forum post; he's won the Heath Literary Award for best article of the year in The Numismatist (the official publication of the ANA) fifteen times. An ANA Summer Seminar Series is named for him. His collection was (mostly) liquidated a few years ago, and brought north of $50 Million. See the link below:

https://www.NGCcoin.com/gallery/newman/

This is what he's doing with the money:

https://nnp.wustl.edu/

Fair warning: You could get lost at that site, and not be seen in public for weeks.

As far as I'm concerned, there are only three numismatists whose provenance is worth a premium from me: Louis Eliasberg, Jack Lee, and Eric Newman. I would consider it an honor to own a coin they once owned.
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This is one of my two. I really enjoy this coin and it is a pleasure to look at every time I see it.

It cost me a bit more than $1.25 to get it, though

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@paralyse: Thanks for sharing but can you explain what the characters on the envelope mean?

For example it says 'Fine'. Yet it's graded vf-35?

'$1.50 bex' stamped on the envelope?

The '1.25' hand written on the envelope?
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"bex" is code usually for what was paid for the coin, using an alphabetical substitution cipher; e.g. MIKEF = 12345, so IKF would be 2.35 and MIE would be 2.24
The 108 is the Overton variety number; the 1.25 indicates the coin's sale price was $1.25.

Numeric grade divisions (VF-20, VF-35, etc) weren't around back then, and the grading went Good-Very Good-Fine-Very Fine-About Unc.
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I did not know who Eric Newman was, until I purchased this note. After reading a bit about him, I was quite impressed.
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And at 106 Eric is STILL doing numismatic research.
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I have an 1872 Seated half dollar ex: Newman/Col. Green that I bought off ebay a few months after the first sale. The person who purchased it from the sale decided to sell it. I acquired it for about half or less of the auction sold price.

I think when the first sales took place there was a hype about the provenance and I think some thought they could buy and resell for more that they paid--it didn't work out for the person that I acquired the half from.

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I think when the first sales took place there was a hype about the provenance and I think some thought they could buy and resell for more that they paid--it didn't work out for the person that I acquired the half from.


It did appear a lot of people felt that way or got blinded by the provenance. More coins than I expected appeared for sale not long after
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There are only a handful of people who have even come close to advancing the study of American numismatics in the way that Eric Newman has. His work covers everything from Continental dollars to obsolete currency and everything in between. The man is a legend. It also happens that he had an exquisite eye for coins and was active at a time when top rarities were available, and obtainable for what are now laughable prices. His storage methods also tended give coins a wonderful concentric toning pattern. Anyway, the combination of quality, rarity, and provenance is why so many Newman coins command premiums. It's some of the best material out there, much of it, once sold, may not reappear for a generation. Sure, there's some average stuff in there, and those coins might receive a small premium from collectors who could not otherwise afford one of his coins. But most of it is worth every penny that knowledgable collectors are willing to pay. That's my take -- from someone who's had the privilege of cataloging some of it.
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I think when the first sales took place there was a hype about the provenance and I think some thought they could buy and resell for more that they paid--it didn't work out for the person that I acquired the half from.

This is a common occurrence on many if not most big name collections. They go high at the auction and then later are available for less.
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