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1993 D Lincoln Cent. Missing Reverse Lettering?

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 Posted 11/03/2017  01:28 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dudecheckthisout to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey guys. I've got a 1993 D Lincoln Penny that appears to be missing lettering on the reverse on the words STATES & OF. It is especially evident on the O. The penny itself is a little dirty but looks to be in decent shape.

Not quite sure if post mint damage or not, but the rim around is intact and all the other lettering is normal. I can't see any real 'damage'. It just is not there.
What do you guys think? Thanks!


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 Posted 11/03/2017  01:46 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly struck through a thin grease layer.
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 Posted 11/03/2017  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dudecheckthisout to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah. Anything I should hang on to or nay?
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It's a "nay" for me. If it is Struck Through Grease, it's not major enough to warrant any premium value.
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 Posted 11/03/2017  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dudecheckthisout to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How are you able to find that out?
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 Posted 11/03/2017  03:57 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How are you able to find that out?


I have seen enough examples in person or in pics to determine what may have potential value. You can always search ebay SOLD listings for something similar and see the going prices. Heck, I have a pretty good struck-through grease cent on ebay right now w/ Best Offer that's not doing well.

I said it may be Struck Through Grease because of the strong EPB below it. It's weak enough to also consider a weak strike or die polishing. I narrowed it down to the most likely explanation from the pics.

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Gotcha. Thanks!
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 Posted 11/03/2017  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a common area to be over polished on LMC's. You'll find that alot if you roll search.
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You said it! Spend it.
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Though I've previously read through threads here while researching finds, it was this post and its responses that finally convinced me to register.

I recently found a '93(P) LMC with the EXACT same 'missing reverse lettering' as the OP. I figured it had to be an error of some type, but w/o knowledge of the terminology - searching online brought scattershot results. This post cut through the irrelevant/false leads to the answer(s) I sought. The folks here have, in fact, often contributed to my education. I just couldn't allow myself to continue benefiting ananymously.

I'm new to numismatics and this forum (and to online community involvement in general). I don't know what I can possibly add by participating. But at least now I can express my gratitude to all who so generously offer their knowledge and expertise.

Thank you!
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Spendable. Just noticed your screen name. LOL Like it!
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To CCF Charlie Ozark! I'm glad that you found us! This is a great site!
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Charlie!

Since my previous responses, I have learned a bit more and coop hit the nail on the head. (no surprise )

Once you see it more and more often, you realize that it cannot even be Struck Through Grease. There are simply too many very similar examples.

This effect is primarily due to a weak enough strike to not fill the letters because Lincoln's coat/shoulder requires too much metal to fill out under that pressure. For the same reason, Monticello's porch, columns and steps are weak more often than not on older Jefferson nickels. The bust on the opposite side requires too much metal over a large area. In fact, many coin types suffer in the central designs because of this.

Today's circulating coinage does not have this problem in most cases. That is because the relief has been lowered (made more flat and consequently requiring less of the planchet's metal to fill) to what seems to be a bare minimum in the designs. It makes for more consistent production, but has its drawbacks in the eye appeal area.
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This effect is primarily due to a weak enough strike to not fill the letters because Lincoln's coat/shoulder requires too much metal to fill out under that pressure. For the same reason, Monticello's porch, columns and steps are weak more often than not on older Jefferson nickels. The bust on the opposite side requires too much metal over a large area. In fact, many coin types suffer in the central designs because of this.


Awesome answer Spruett! I've just learned something new again.
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Thanks, E&V. Overlays are good for more than clashes.

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Notice that another weak area on LMCs is the lower steps of the Memorial and a bit to the right when viewing the reverse. That nicely corresponds to the temple/cheek of Lincoln and is also a relatively high relief point and covers a large area without a drastic change in relief.
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Wanted to point out. Rims and weakness can coexist. Regardless with or without grease involved. Thanks, Doug.
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