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Valued Member
United States
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I am being offered this coin by someone and I would like your opinion on its authenticity. Now I know this coin is one of the keys in the commemorative series with only 5,000 minted and I know they are HIGHLY counterfeited. I'm seeing all the signs that signal an authentic coin including the distinctive die break running from the bow to his chin. What do you guys think? Also suggest a possible grade too please :)   Edited by Buckwill311
11/04/2017 5:43 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Maybe I am wrong, but the star looks to be incuse, not in relief. Looks like a nice coin - I would prefer to be proven wrong.
Needs to be confirmed by examination with a loupe, coin held in hand.
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but the star looks to be incuse, not in relief. You are correct, and the incuse star is as deigned and minted. Also incuse on the obverse is the designer initial's (Laura Garden Fraser) under the portrait and between the two dates. To the coin .... I do not see any obvious signs that would concern me regarding authenticity. What does it weigh? At this state of preservation it should be very close to 12.50 grams. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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My first thought, too.
If the star is punched its value drops precipitously.
Maybe its just the photo.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Even better. Not only was I proven wrong, but in a good way.  |
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
United States
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I agree with nickelsearcher...
- the incuse star is as it should be - correct shape, orientation and placement
- the designer's initials are present and where they should be (they are often missing on poor counterfeits)
A very good counterfeit of this coin was discovered back in 2014. From the images provided, it does not appear that your coin matches the counterfeit diagnostics (e.g. extra metal around the lettering from casting).
I would definitely weigh the coin - if it weighs 12.5 grams (or very very close to it), I would say the piece is genuine.
At a minimum, the coin appears to be a high AU. It could be MS, but I would want to examine it "live" to know for sure. How's its luster?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'll agree that there is nothing that jumps out and screams fake. Along with weighing it, I'd also do the magnet test (even though it would be worth making a fake of this in silver) as well.
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Valued Member
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Unfortunately I do not have the coin in hand I asked him to weigh it, we will see what he says. He has a return policy if there were to be any issues. How much do these coins usually go for? I would like to send it to a TPG to get it authenticated. And yes the star is incuse like it should be. My savings sure took a hit but I just couldn't let this coin slip by me lol. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Greysheet for AU50 is $760, MS60 is $1,030, so somewhere in the middle is where I'd try and be, about $850-ish?
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Valued Member
United States
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Since you guys are probably curious, I paid $450 for it  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sounds like a good price!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Sounds good to me as well.  Edited by coinlover1899
11/04/2017 1:01 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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For some reason it's not letting me post a picture of the coin on a scale, but I had the guy weigh it and its 12.5 grams!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Awesome coin Buckwill! Bully for you!
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Valued Member
United States
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There we go now it worked  |
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