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Tai-Ching-Ti-Kuo Silver Coin. But Is It ? (Id: Modern Repro)

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I have my doubts about this coin.
At first it seems easy to identify ... "Tai-Ching-Ti-Kuo Silver Coin" but the sizes don't seem correct.
Diameter about 33mm. Weight 11.0g.
Opinions/info much appreciated.
Thanks
Brian.
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 Posted 11/11/2017  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guybrush to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The bottom two characters at the second picture read "five cents".

This is odd as it claims to be a silver coin, with such size and weight (way too light, and perhaps too thin too?).

So it's a definite fake for me, whatever they're trying to fake.
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@JBL, can you please confirm that a magnet does not stick to this piece?
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Magnet ! didn't think to try that.
The coin IS magnetic, magnet sticks very firmly. Not silver then !!
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Ok yep, the magnet should always be the first test (unless you are fluent in Chinese like @guybrush). I agree that this piece is 100% fake.
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Thanks all, I had my doubts about it, it will go in the rubbish bin.
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Yes indeed, it is (again) one of the many fakes.
If it is valuable, the Chinese make replica's
https://www.thespruce.com/chinese-c...ring-4071202
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I keep all my fakes/counterfeits/replicas for reference and sharing.
The first thing I noticed was that the obverse features looked quite worn, but the fields weren't damaged.
Also the dragon scales looked mis-shaped.
Whenever someone tells me something about a coin, I want to ask, "How do you know?"
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If a coin is scarce/valueble, the Chinese makes copies...
If you have seen a lot of these replicas, you can tell immediatly if it is fake
Some people collect these replica's.
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I have 23 of these "coins" - all magnetic, all counterfeit... I'm not surprised...

I would never sell these as legit, but is there any market for these trinkets...?

Or should I just toss them in the bin...?

Any advice greatly appreciated...

(FYI: I got these in a batch of foreign coins I bought at a coin show so I'm not upset that they're fake...)
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Quote:
is there any market for these trinkets...?


Other than for unsuspecting tourists, I am not aware of one. As noted above, some folks will fave them in their black cabinet when they come across them, but I'm not aware of anyone actively collecting them. It would be sorta like going to the beach with the intent to collect sand.
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Actually there may be a market for these. As long as they are honestly presented for a reasonable price. They could sell on ebay. Despite not being genuine, they could be fun to collect and study. I know a Disabled Vet through a contact at a VA Hospital in Arizona. They have a coin club and welcome donations. Call them trinkets, but they can be interesting trinkets. The novelty of study and discovery of the flaws can serve a collector just as well as the hunt and study of genuine coins. Pass them around, let others see what's right or surprisingly wrong and they can fill a small need for someone somewhere. If you have 23 all magnetic, go ahead and list them on ebay and see what happens.
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Looks like a modern copy.
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