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1939 Nickel REV Types Summary - Non-Fs Identification Shown

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I have been wanting to make this graphic for awhile and finally got it done.

In 1939 they used both the REV of 1938 (Type I), and a revised REV design that is called the REV of 1940 (Type II).

Type I is also known on proof 1939-P and proof 1940-P nickels.


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Evidently the TPGs (THE experts) are unaware of the "US" difference as their only references to identifying these types are by the wavy or non-wavy steps. The above information is gleaned/summarized from several websites.

Image edited to reflect type I and type II proofs are known, but not their mintages.

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Thanks for the graphic, Earle!

I believe you first pointed out the serif difference to me on my double-tails nickel topic.
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Earle42,

Thanks for this graphic! Checking the S in PLUIRBUS for a serif is a much easier way to ID the Type I IMHO. I was never sure if those wavy steps weren't just a weak strike T II or were a T I.

I checked my 39 Jeffs and found that I had a 39-D T I, 39 T II and a 39-S T I.
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Nice work @earle42!
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Note the image has been updated - the previous one only listed Type I REV for the proof, whereas both REV are known for proofs, but I could find no mintage figures.


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You are welcome - I have been wanting to get this done now for some time simply b/c I wanted to print it out and put it with my nickel searching notes.

I was inspired to get 'er done after reading Crazy's just released "Coin ID-ing For Dummies Vol II."

But one more note I need to add. I do not know who it was, but it was a CCF Family member who first alerted me to this serif difference. That person really deserves the credit. I was thrilled when I found out I could determine the type without being able to see the steps.

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That made my day - glad when I can feel like I helped someone find something that was lurking in the shadows in their collection.

@Spence - thanks!


The added bonus is that we now all have legitimate reasons to own more than one of each 1939 nickels
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we now all have legitimate reasons to own more than one of each 1939 nickels


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Thanks Earle. Your Type 1 image looks like it may be DDR. I agree; our fellow enthusiast who pointed out the S diagnostic was a real breakthrough. After learning that snippet, the trip through the 1939 circulated pile yielded a number of Type 1 specimens. I think that your photo montage will get proper distribution in the coming months as folks alert others here to search for the low mintage varieties. Well done!

PS for what it's worth, the T in UNITED has a more pronounced split in the crossbar on the Type 1's.
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Thanks Earle.....good information.
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@Rackster - thanks for the tip - I will be busy for a week or so, but maybe I will do an updated version of the montage after I get some pics.

I really would like to know who it is we have to thank for finding this initial find.

I also agree about the DDR. Thanks for pointing this out. I need to go back and find that nickel again and mark it as such.

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Thanks Rackster

- so we owe all of this to ColoradoBryan
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We do...and to a number of others over the years. On a search, I found a number of threads reviewing the diagnostic characteristics for the RDV variety. As with anything, periodic resurrections/reissues get the forum members excited about the many interesting tidbits to our hobby. Especially the newbies.

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Thanks for the clarifications. I just checked a roll of 1939-P that I had. 38 were type 2 and 2 were type 1.
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That's is a very nice presentation! Good job! This will help many people and it has.
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