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Toning On This Coin...do You Like It?

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Poll Question
This coin is from a reliable and respected seller who claims it is original (although it's a raw coin.) What are your thoughts on this toning?

Toning-On-This-Coin...do-You-Like-It?

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 It's beautiful!
 Neat toning, I kind of like it
 Meh
 Don't like it
 Downright ugly!

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I don't like it.
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If it' s so "original" why is it not in a slab? Surely the owner can explain that!
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I mean it has character but it's meh from me. I get concerned these days when I see the black toning creep in like at 7 and 9 o clock on the reverse. Also the maroons and blues don't look like natural toning progression. I think this one runs the risk of being ED.
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I'd bet getting a nice angle on it will show that it is super colorful.
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Idk I feel like since its a circulated coin the toning should look different, for the right price I would buy it and try a dip it (carefully) to try and get the tone off.
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That's a coin that really needs to be seen in person to really see what it looks like. Those are pictures taken in natural sunlight as well not juiced up pictures people are used to seeing.

The leather pouch toning theory could very well be correct.


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If it' s so "original" why is it not in a slab? Surely the owner can explain that!


Original doesn't always mean straight grade.

But in this case it's raw because the consignor didn't have any of his coins graded before consigning them and I guess wants them sold raw as well
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I personally don't like it.
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Wow the bell curve has become very apparent early on this one.
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Well we are to buy the coin and not the scabs, right?
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lol I hope you meant slabs vs. scabs there Crazyb0
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I am not a fan of the toning on that coin.
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Some may take the risk of having it dipped.
In AU55 or less, that is what I would have done.

If I was to consider buying it, I would pass.

I think any silver in MS65 blast white is better than MS65 toned, because toning is in an unstable, transitory state, especially so for rainbow toned coins.

Realized auction pricing may well bear this out.

Having said ALL of the above, I just LOVE rainbow toned coins , even worn cleaned artificially toned examples. I just don't pay any more for them, and sometimes even less.
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Personally, somewhere between "Don't like it" and "Downright ugly".

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I'd bet getting a nice angle on it will show that it is super colorful.
This is my thought. I started with Meh and left this tab open to come back to it a couple of times to get a different feel. I have moved into the I kind of like it group and that is how I voted.


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That's a coin that really needs to be seen in person to really see what it looks like.
I an inclined to agree.
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