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1992-D Lincoln Memorial Penny Die Or Lamination Error? Both?

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Hello Everyone,

I just wanted to share this coin I found a few months ago. It is also a 1992-D and also appears to have a major lamination error. I was told that it was damaged, but I really don't think it was, so I kept it anyways. I have been looking for similar errors ever since until I came across this forum. I am really new to coin collecting, but have quickly became addicted. Any thoughts or appraisal on this mangled penny would be very appreciated.

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@SB1984, first welcome to CCF. Second, it is going to be hard to say definitively what you have there with those pics. If you could please remove your cent from the 2x2 and then take straight on shots of the obv and rev, that would be super-helpful! That said, it looks to me like the dark areas around the Lincoln Memorial and some of the letters might just be exposed zinc that is starting to corrode. If that is the case, then whoever told you this coin was damaged was correct.

One final note--be careful removing coin from the 2x2 as you have staples which could scratch the coin. For the remaining 2x2s in your collection, I would strongly encourage you to flatten the staples with a pair of pliers so that they don't accidentally rub up against another coin and scratch it.
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First here are some more pics. Second, thank you very much for the advise! I hope these are better. I'm no photographer I guess, lol.



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Being a beginner, I can't say with any certainty, but to me it looks like there were air pockets between the copper and zinc. The dark spots are pits, deep in most places.
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The obverse of your coin shows signs of Zinc Rot, a typical issue found commonly on Cents since 1983.

The reverse of your coin shows some kind of residue, perhaps glue. All together it is considered PSD ( Post Mint Damage) and does not carry any premium above and beyond 1 Cent.

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Zinc rot could be a possibility, but I assure you there is no residue. The discoloration on the back is from deep cracks where the zinc has become exposed. When I first found it, a sliver of copper was barely hanging on and fell off on the way to my house.
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Thanks--those are much better pics @SB1984!

Yes, it certainly looks like you have exposed zinc. In some places (such as around the mintmark and at the tip of Lincoln's nose), it has started to corrode, while in others (such as around the Lincoln Memorial) it is still relatively pristine for now. I agree with @chase007 that the value is just 1 cent, but it is kinda interesting to look at, especially since you had a strip of copper flake off so keep it if you want.
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Because the plating was not fully adhered to the zinc it went ape**** when struck, splitting in all kinds of strange places, particularly the reverse around the Memorial. All are the results of a split plating issue. Is planchet correct weight and thickness? Throw those pesky requirements into the mix...
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First off, laminations happen on copper, silver nickels. Laminations don't happen on plated zinc cents. The plating can peel. And sometimes it gets struck onto another coin. When the plating is pierced, oxygen gets to the zinc and the zinc breaks down. That is what you have. Eventually the zinc will all go away. Not a keeper.
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The new composition for the Lincoln Cent was a bad idea from the beginning.

Maybe they were purposely made to rot away with time. Many of them developed hairline cracks around the devices when they were minted. The cracks allow moisture in which starts the reaction.

Only the cents that are stored well will survive.
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I popped it on the scale and its a little under what it should be at 2.382 grams. (207) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed says it should be 2.5 grams. What does that mean?
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Some of the zinc deteriorated and under weight. Still within tolerance. Very spendable coin. The 2X2 is worth more than the coin.
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