Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsCoin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection! Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1969-P LMC Need Help On Device Issues

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 3 / Views: 1,113Next Topic  
Pillar of the Community
SF11Dude's Avatar
United States
746 Posts
 Posted 01/10/2018  08:02 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SF11Dude to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I used the references and not much on 1969-P; here's what I see:
1) Obverse Date -> Split Serif on first "9"
2) Reverse Designer's Initials (FG) -> Not sure, weak?, die chip in center?
3) Reverse Left Post -> appears to be a die chip?
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
Bedrock of the Community
coop's Avatar
United States
62064 Posts
 Posted 01/10/2018  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
(1) Your coin has MD with metal striation lines on the upper NW part of the 9. This is just evidence that the die moved after the strike reducing that device. Note how that area was reduced in size. Machine Doubling was is very common on the 1968-1972 cents. On the 1973 cents, they used more pressure for the strikes, (thus the taller rims that year) but occasionally we still find MD on about all coin all years. But the dates I mentioned above seem to have more than most other years.

What is metal striation? If you took a kitchen parring knife and rubbed the blade on edge over a stick of butter that is room temperature, the edge of the blade will leave metal striation lines on the butter. When a die slides a bit on a device, you will see these striation lines on a device that is altered:
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
1969-P-LMC-Need-Help-On-Device-Issues
There is no premium for these, but knowing what causes them is a help when your searching through coins. Some may see this and think it is notching, it it isn't. Why, Notching is usually accompanied with enlarge of the devices. On all these examples, the metal was reduced in overall size. (except on incuse devices, when the MD enlarges the devices)
Coophome= metal striations
Edited by coop
01/10/2018 2:00 pm
Pillar of the Community
MrPink2018's Avatar
United States
2477 Posts
 Posted 03/06/2018  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrPink2018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
a-ha... Feeder Finger Damage... i've seen plenty of those on LSCs. question regarding that: if you follow the angle of that finger feeder mark upward diagonally through the shield, it exits the shield at the upper left shield top. I tend to see more of those marks toward the upper left shield top vs. lower right shield near banner curl, but I have even seen cents with both. are those marks (that I just mentioned) on the upper left shield the same finger feeder damage? I don't have an example on hand or i'd post a pic.
Valued Member
Ilikeabecoins's Avatar
United States
262 Posts
 Posted 03/06/2018  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ilikeabecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ahh, striation lines.
  Previous TopicReplies: 3 / Views: 1,113Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.24 seconds to rattle this change. Forums