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1943 LWC Steelie Weights - Why So Varied?

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Where's the love? Does everyone hate Steelies or what?
Waiting on someone to respond to my earlier posts.
Okay, I think the emoji's here are funny...

Seriously, out of curiosity I started weighing Steelies and noticed they ranged from 2.5g+ to 2.9g+
For coins that is a lot of weight difference, especially given some of the ones weighed had been coated with some silver crap by a moron...
What was odd was the heaviest con was 2.93g and was a true steelie. Thoughts? (other than ne eats more than the others)
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They all seem to be within tolerance. Remember it was wartime and I don't think the emphasis on quality was being concerned about minting Lincoln cents
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replated 43s probably weigh on the high end
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2.7 is normal for the year. Mint tolerance is +/- .13. A replate would weigh more but you need a scale that goes to 0.001.
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nss-52's comment is worth noting (plating will likely increase weight).
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And decrease the value a lot. They should not be that shiny.
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(plating will likely increase weight).


Then why aren't most of them over weight? The only over weight one I see is the unplated one.
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Thanks for the feedback and especially coop for another great reference guide!

That was my expectation, that the plated/coated crap would weigh more than the "true" steelies...
But the coated ones ranged from 2.5g to 2.8g which I would have thought they would have been on the higher end...
Instead a true steelie (on the scale) weighed 2.93g which given John1's weight and tolerance 2.7+.13 means 2.83g should be max...
The one on the scale is out of tolerance on weight...
I always learn something and I appreciate the instruction, thanks!
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A good question and great answers.
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Also,the weight of a re plate would differ depending what the weight was before re plating.
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Also,the weight of a re plate would differ depending what the weight was before re plating.


Ya think before it can be plated the steel cents would have to go through an acid bath to get to an etched surface for the plating to adhere?
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Replating would probably be a lot heavier as they usually plate them three times. Copper/nickel/chrome is what they use for plating a chrome item for an automobile. So I would like to know the weight of one of the reprocessed cents.
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Well, that's what made this so surprising to start with...
I was thinking you take a base weight steelie expecting 2.7g and add 2-3 layers for coating and it should be the heaviest "steelies" in the group...that wasn't true.
Like the true steelies they range in the 2.51g on the low end (which means very low starting weight of true steelie I would assume)...to 2.87g on the high end
The last pic was meant to show the 2 different colors/types of coatings used...
All the pics are of "plated/coated" steelies...
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Your math is spot on but really, all only worth a few cents each - maybe now only 1¢ since they are just 2nd hand plated steel cents where the plating is deteriorating.
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Yeah, worthless to me because they have been monkeyed with...
But from a curiosity point of view, now worth keeping until I learn why this happens...
Could the moron out there doing this please explain?
Just doesn't make sense...
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They did a poor job also. Note the one with the weight of 2.84. You can see were they plated over the rust, without removing it first.
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