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Valued Member
Canada
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Hello, I don't know if this the appropriate forum. I am going to sell some coins,(coins that I haven't already became attached to lol), most likely on ebay unless there is a better way. I would like to know what the policy on pricing and selling ungraded coins is? Is it appropriate and more likely to get sold if I ask a certain percentage of the approximate grade catalogue value? And if so what is the percentage used? My coins aren't slab worthy but could sell to collectors looking for different grades and/or errors, I would think. The reason I'm posting in the Canadian forum is because I would like to only ship in Canada (nothing against the rest of the world). I have an ebay account but have only ever bought, not sold and not coins. Shipping around the world is not something I would like to do until I get the hang of things. Any advice and to how to sell/what to price it/preferred methods of shipping. I know that's alot. I don't want to start off making mistakes and possibly ruin my account for future sales as I have seen other people do. Thanks in advance for your advice. Edited by Canadian coins 01/31/2018 09:51 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Decide if you want to sell now or if you want to sell for a specific price. In the first case put it to auction with a low start and in the second use BIN with Make an Offer. Approach to shipping depends on your tolerance for risk vs increased sales and volume of sales. If you're selling enough consider letter mail for low value items and, for example, charge $2 shipping for a 96cent stamp with the extra dollar covering the occasional Item Not Received case you will get hit with. PayPal Shipping, Expedited Parcel is the cheapest option for anything you want tracked. Max insurance value is $500 on coins; although they'll be happy to charge for higher values they just won't pay out so don't bother paying. PayPal requires tracking SHOWING SUCCESSFUL DELIVERY to provide seller protection. Any loss or damage during shipping is your problem which is why you should consider the insurance.
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Canada
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Don't use the 'require immediate payment' listing option and do enable your combined shipping account option on both ebay.ca and ebay.com (see http://goccf.com/t/303834). Many Canadian buyers use ebay.com instead of ebay.ca. Doesn't sound like you'll need to worry about hitting the $30k sales requirement for HST but even if you're selling less and particularly if you're selling at a loss and/or in a higher HST province selling to lower HST provinces you may want to do the math and decide if it's worth registering for HST and being able to claim the refunds. If you're going the BIN route with ungraded coins try pricing the 30%-50% of list range as a general rule. But it's best to do the search to see what everybody else has theirs listed for and what they've recently sold for and price accordingly. If you're going the auction route then you save yourself some work on that. Also, don't bother paying extra for BIN option with auctions and buyers will tend to avoid auctions with the reserve option as well. 7 days is fine for auctions so again, don't bother paying for longer. Consider time zones so your auctions end in the evening or on weekends across most of Canada.
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Canada
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Once you have an idea of how much you expect to sell, plug it in to the ebay calculator in their help pages to see if it's worth getting a store or not. A store will cost you a fixed monthly fee but will reduce the final value fees you pay to 6.15%. Also, expect no support as a seller from ebay. ebay's priorities are 1) get their fees including by ensuring that any mistake on your part results in them keeping their money; and 2) making sure their buyers are happy. In any dispute between buyer and seller they will take the buyer's side 98% of the time with the other 2% being when you can rigourously prove your case. That being said, 99.9% of ebay buyers are honest and willing to accept an honest mistake (whether yours or Canada Post's) if you're properly polite, apologetic and fix it as best you can. The other 0.1% you just need to live with (and block once you've identified them of course).
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Canada
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I used to be just a coin buyer on ebay starting in 2013. But starting in 2015 I started to sell on ebay - mostly selling off coins as I upgraded to better copies. I think I have sold about 50 coins on ebay - most as auction format. Prices have ranged from $2 to $150 with only three coins going for over $90. I have never done tracking and never had an issue with any of my coins arriving but you might not be comfortable with that. As a buyer I factor in shipping. If seller A has a coin starting at $30 plus $10 shipping and seller B has the same coin at $30 plus $2 shipping I can bid up to $8 more for the same coin if that makes sense. Starting bids low can attract more auction bidders and some get caught up in it and the coin does well. On the other hand if it is a quiet week with little action, a coin that trends at $50 you might start at $9 and sells for $16 when you were hoping for $30. Start with a few sales that will be under the $20 range until you find your comfort level for risk and selling style. I do not wish to ship all over the world either but I do USA shipping. I don't sell a lot there as I am selling only Canadian coins but two of the three over $90 sales I have done have been USA. With their strong dollar, a coin that a Canadian would pay $100 for, it only costs them $80 U.S. There is a forum category on this site about ebay. Maybe you will get more responses if your question is posted there.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Wow! Thank you so much! I really didn't know how my topic would be received and am very appreciative of your advice. I have 100s of coins and have only catalogued 1/4 of them as per est. grade, variety, country, approx. prices. I have been researching and looking at what they have sold for from other sellers. I didn't want to start selling without some advice from people who know. I know from these forums that postal/shipping errors occur and will account for that. Pricing is the tricky part because the coins I have are not graded. I've noticed that when that is the case, that grades/prices can be subjective to a buyer or a seller. I like to think if I'm going to do anything, I'd like to do it properly. As always, the advice and opinions on this site are invaluable to have when gaining experience with coins. Thank you
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I would not worry about selling coins internationally if the values are not too high. I have shipped a few thousand coins around the world. I use regular mail unless the value is quite high. My cut off now is around $150 although for repeat customers I have sent more expensive coins than that in the mail. My losses in shipping are almost nil. I am sometimes nervous sending things off to Russia, India and China. I have probably had most of my losses there. But if I am selling Indian, Chinese or Hong Kong coins they are the highest bidders. The Russian buyers seem to like odd ball stuff that in my mind I am usually pretty happy to unload so I don't worry too much about it.
If you are trying to sell ungraded but decent quality coins on line top quality photos are a must.
Make sure you pack things well. Postal machines will test packaging. 2x2s are always good but I have seen pliofilm split open. You should never be able to feel a coin moving around inside the package.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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The coins don't needed to be professionally graded. All you have to do is take GOOD straight perpendicular shots with good lighting .. camera straight down towards the coin and both sides. Pictures sell a coin; words don't.
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Canada
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See my post for mailing ebay coins in the "check out my newest ebay score" posted by gidgit in this forum section. You'll also see "what not to do" to mail a coin in that discussion. Do sell to the U.S. At least 1/4 of my sales went to the U.S. The only problem is if the envelope is too large or heavy (over 50 gms.) to send first class, you may need a customs declaration sticker, which means you have to go to the post office. Usually you need one on bubble mailers (too thick), which sucks. Buy stamps on ebay - I bought several lots of uncancelled stamps of different values last year. One lot was 500 P stamps (85 cents ea.= $425) which were (uncancelled-on-paper). I soaked them off, and ended up with 500 usable stamps on a $210 + free shipping Buy-it-now. No need to go to the post office and pay $1 for an 85 cent stamp. Please don't bid against me. If you appreciate any of this advice, please wait to sell your coins until I have managed to sell all mine in about 15-20 years.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Thanks for asking the question. I sold a few coins on ebay last year and took a break. Now, I have about 40 lots closing in the next week and some of the advice in this thread is solid. Generally I'm only selling lots that I can post in an envelop with a regular stamp and so far have had no issues.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Thank you to everyone for the great advice. I'm starting the process of setting everything up and referring to your advice when doing so. I'm going to start off with some lower priced earlier U.K coins. My question is; Is putting coins in lots an easier way to sell coins. Example: I have six coins in a series, this year to this year. They are all worth five dollars or so. Is there more success in selling these coins in lots? $5 x 6 coins, $30? Or does putting in a consecutive series allow you to add a little value. This is just an example that I could use for different coins from different countries. I've been looking and it seems that lots are all one coin or random years from a period of time. But nothing consecutive that I've found. Thanks again for your thoughts on this.
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United States
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Lots of collectors like to purchase their coins one by one, but acquiring several in a good lot is a bonus, if the price is right. I would even price your $30 lot around 27.95 and accept that price, but watch for bidding to rise over $30. It's your call, and you'll gain experience as you go along.
I recall buying a lot of coins that were all dated in my birth year, that was kind of a treat.
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Canada
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Yes, using lots is an easier way to sell coins. But you probably won't get as much for them. You get the best prices from retail collectors. Who are generally looking for a single coin to fit into an empty slot or upgrade or whatever as they've already been working on their chosen set/series for a while. Lots tend to go more to the bulk silver buyers who aren't interested in paying any more than melt or resellers who are only interested at wholesale prices. However listing individual coins is noticeably more work. And that additional work will generally follow the law of diminishing returns. If you enjoy doing the extra work then go for it. If you're doing it for the extra money you'll probably make more spending the time filling out on-line surveys ;-)
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Canada
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My experience on ebay wasn't great. People don't bid on your item unless you have good reviews and if your new then you don't have any. Plus ebay bidders are only looking for deals, very rare they will step up and purchase at catalog prices. I would visit a LCD, check out your local coin clubs and get your CCF posts up to 250 and post on this site. If you have something of great value, I would look into a online auction house like TCNAC.
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Canada
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Quote:My experience on ebay wasn't great. Plus ebay bidders are only looking for deals, very rare they will step up and purchase at catalog prices. CATALOG PRICES!!! Hahahahahha.
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Canada
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Quote: CATALOG PRICES! They're still out there if the coin is scarce enough due to high grade or whatever. The last couple of years we've been pretty much able to walk away with any coin we really wanted for our collection but the last 6 months or so we've been losing more than we win. Even lost some where we want all the way up to full price like that 1947 ML Curve right that sold last year. So feel free to over-simplify if you like but all it tells me is you haven't done your homework! 
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