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1976 Bicentennial Quarter Smashed Drum Error?

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Was looking for a DDO, and came across this on the reverse. What do yinz think? The right arm and drum look deformed. Is it wear or an error?
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 Posted 02/03/2018  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@MO, interesting coin, the right arm looks pretty much ok to me, but you are right about the drum. It doesn't look like a hit to me, but could have been preferentially worn there by someone who was bored. It also seems like a pretty large area to have been obliterated by die polishing following a clash. More likely, it may have been that some grease got into a pretty broad area of the die. I'll be interested to see what others have to say about it.
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Thanks for your input spence!
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Remember the die is reversed image. The drum area is incused deeper into the die so polishing wouldn't do this. Either it is damage after mint(wear?) or in this case is a Grease Filled Die. a glob of gunk was in the device crevice on the die.

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Awesome example crazyb0
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I agree it is a Struck Through Grease error. (a lot in this one) Note also the stick on the right is wider, so some was also in that device. If it was die polished, all the devices in that area would be thinner. The grease prevented the die from forming the coin in that area.
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It also appears to have a die clash from his left shoulder going N.E. to the M on the reverse. I have one with the same clash.
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Is it worth getting the coin graded?
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Also, the drum is a notorious area to show weak strike. I think a combination of that and late die state lead to this appearance.
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Not worth having it graded. They would just consider it as a normal coin.
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I have several of these coins, they all differ just a bit with it comes to the drum error. They are all in great condition. do you think these would be worth grading?


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but no, not worth grading

The Gem silver proofs are only selling between 6 and 10 dollars.
The grading cost would far exceed the retail value.
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Thanks for the info! I all so have Kennedy half dollars in Bicentennial Clad in the same condition. would those be worth grading?
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It's just weakness from strike. That area of the drum is directly opposite Washington's head. For that reason the drum often does not fill completely.
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Guess what? These are both from the same die pair. How do I know? The mint mark locations on both coins are the same.
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