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1964-D N - Planchet Clip?

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 Posted 06/01/2008  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion this looks like post mint damage. The numbers in the date also have damage on them.
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 Posted 06/01/2008  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah this definitely aint a clipped planchet. I agree with pyrbob its not an error but a damaged coin.
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Looks like a clip to me....just not a typical curved clip. Looks more lika a strange form of ragged clip.

Reason I go with clip and not damage is because the date was affected in a way that shows there wasn't enough metal to fill the digits when the coin was struck...hence a clip.
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I disagree with you coppercoins. Look at the back of the coin above the N in Unum. That shows sign that it was squashed in someway. This can happen to a coin being on the road for a while. If this was a clip some of the numbers would be missing not pushed in. If you look closely all the rim is still there on the coin also so it also points that the coin was pushed in instead of clipped. I'm not fighting with ya just everybody is entitled to an opinion.
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The area above the N looks like a filled die crack / Die Deterioration / die chip, to me.
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Its folded over metal thats all that is. Its not a Cud or anything else of that matter. I bet there is a seperation between layers where the missing chunk is too. What I mean by that is there is a line in the middle of where it was smashed in. Now a clip would be smoother there. There wouldnt be no seperation between layers. All that happened to that coin is that it was pushed in from the outside of the coin. This damage happened after the coin was made not while.

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Hey seattle...think you can manage a photo of the edge of the coin in the affected area?
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Hi,
I don't like it for a clipped planchet either. The damage by WE TR on the opposite rim indicates the coin was gripped by something and ground down. The lettering on the reverse doesn't look right either, the metal is moved and "folded" over the rim.

I hope this helps,
Bill
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I'll take some more photos of that area when I get home - I do see Bill and 1913's point regarding the folded metal look of the reverse rim area.
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Picture 1 and 4 definitely show that it isn't a clip. The edge is way to rough and uneven to be a clip. A clip will be smooth like the edge of the coin. Whether a straight or curved clip they are both smooth where its cut. Those pictures definitely tell me its a damaged coin. I'm not trying to be a pain but it definitely isn't a clip.
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My gut reaction is that it is legit; if it is fake or damaged it is still very deceptive. I think I see a hint of Blakesley on the reverse, though typically that is weaker on nickels vs clad or copper coins. It could be a ragged clip with post-mint damage from circulation, or it could just be damaged. I can usually attribute about 95% of these from pictures, your coin falls into that 5% where I'd need to examine it up close to give a determination.


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 Posted 06/05/2008  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Sean,

Good to see you!

Bill
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