1916 Cent..looking For A Grade (Added A Much Better Pic)

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madzdad71 Valued Member United States 377 Posts	Posted 06/04/2008 8:23 pm Im wondering if I should send this in to be graded. Opions pleeeease I have multiple pics so you can see the hairs still in the beard. The white junk on the obverse is lint. I didn't see it until I edited them. Image: 1916c07.jpg 74.67 KB Image: 1916co3.jpg 47.23 KB Image: 1916co4.jpg 68.41 KB Image: 1916cr2.jpg 81.22 KB NEW PICS Image: 1916Obv.jpg 46.56 KB Image: 1916rev.jpg 74.23 KB Edited by madzdad71 06/14/2008 10:05 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Pennypusher Valued Member United States 486 Posts	Posted 06/04/2008 8:50 pm I would not be able to tell they are the same coin in the pictures. But it seem to be a solid AU. -PP Report this Post to the Staff
madzdad71 Valued Member United States 377 Posts	Posted 06/04/2008 9:16 pm All the same, Just different lighting, I think that the 2nd pic is the best of the obverse Report this Post to the Staff
desertgem Pillar of the Community United States 860 Posts	Posted 06/04/2008 9:47 pm Mazdad, In 1916 they sharpened up the master die, so the beard and hair is much sharper. Usually a 1916 AU will have sharper detail in those areas than some 1915 MS grades. I don't know how many people can really tell high grade AU from a low grade MS without having it in their hand and loupe.Look carefully at the cheek for slight wear and in the field on face side of obverse. If it had mint frost or luster all around ,one could be more sure, but the reds going to browns always seem to be problematic at grading the sliders( at least for me) The value difference might not be much higher than the fees. Nice coin! I could find a place for it ! Jim Report this Post to the Staff
BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19935 Posts	Posted 06/04/2008 10:36 pm Desertgem is correct, in 1916 the dies were new and retooled. Your coin is a very nice example. Hard to tell from the pics, but there seems to be a slight rub on the cheek. The reverse looks MS to I'll have to assume the coin is likely MS....it's hard to tell unless it's in-hand with those pics. If it's indeed MS (no rub on cheek) it could get 64-65 red by a TGP. Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
madzdad71 Valued Member United States 377 Posts	Posted 06/05/2008 05:48 am Thanks for the responses all, I really appreciate it. :^) Report this Post to the Staff
madzdad71 Valued Member United States 377 Posts	Posted 06/05/2008 06:56 am Lets just say that I was to send it to PCGS to be graded, What would be the cost on that. It is hard to tell from the website, what the cost is.. I don't think that its a rarity, and 500.00 sees a bit steep. I compared the coin to other 1916's that have been graded, and not to put the others down, But, mine is considerably nicer. This one is graded MS65RD by pcgs.. Sure its shiny, but it has more scratches on the obverse and reverse. The "E" in cent looks to have a rake right across it. And linclolns ear has a pretty nice slash on it. Edited by madzdad71 06/05/2008 07:00 am Report this Post to the Staff
tights24 Pillar of the Community United States 2254 Posts	Posted 06/05/2008 07:13 am Quote: Lets just say that I was to send it to PCGS to be graded, What would be the cost on that. It is hard to tell from the website, what the cost is.. I don't think that its a rarity, and 500.00 sees a bit steep I'm trying to understand what you are asking. Just a basic question of how much it would be to submit? For PCGS and NGC you have to be members. Depending on the membership level you choose, you get some free submissions. After that, I think it is based on the value of the coin itself. I don't think this cent would be greater than a $500 coin, so I think it's something like $30 to submit. Maybe a little less, I forget. I believe you can sibmit to ANACS and ICG without being a member, and their prices may be a little cheaper also, but of course, the resale value is directly proportional to the grading service these days...... Hopefully that answered your question. Report this Post to the Staff
madzdad71 Valued Member United States 377 Posts	Posted 06/05/2008 6:03 pm I guess I was just comparing the 2. Report this Post to the Staff
JohnAP Valued Member United States 245 Posts	Posted 06/05/2008 6:40 pm madzdad71, You can get a dealer to submit it to PCGS. The dealer I bought my 1916 D Mercury dime submited it for me. The cost was $70 for 15 day turnaround. Of course that included a little bit for the dealer. If you have a few that you want to get graded, they have diferent levels. The cheapest is $49/year in the US. That will get you direct submision privileges. 15 day turnaround on your coin would be $30 + $5 handling fee + USPS registered mail fee, which in my case would have been $18.50. That would bring the total to $53.50 + $49 for a year silver membership. I don't know how the other TPG services charge, but I hope this helps. Nice coin by the way, you can always just send it to me! I forgot, max coin value for 15 day turnaround $30 service is $3,000.00 Edited by JohnAP 06/05/2008 7:04 pm Report this Post to the Staff
j_h_s Pillar of the Community United States 1934 Posts	Posted 06/07/2008 06:16 am The PCGS example you posted has a PCGS value of $150. Even a solid low MS wouldnt be worth slabbing this coin for, in my opinion...save your money. Report this Post to the Staff
madzdad71 Valued Member United States 377 Posts	Posted 06/07/2008 08:07 am Thanks everyone. Report this Post to the Staff
SpringCypress Pillar of the Community United States 666 Posts	Posted 06/07/2008 10:35 am I hate to overgrade... From the pictures I'm sure you're looking at an AU coin. I can't tell if there's a bit of slight wear on the cheek. I also think it's crazy that I'm not seeing that many contact marks. The back is beautiful. I have the feeling that if I had this one in hand I'd give it a high MS grade. From these pictures I can't see a reason why it wouldn't grade as Red So taking all of that into account, I might take this one down to a local dealer and ask if they thought that it would grade 65+ Red. That would be worth slabbing. Report this Post to the Staff
Indian1 Pillar of the Community United States 3640 Posts	Posted 06/07/2008 7:13 pm Obv. looks good. Sharp and lustrous date, motto etc. looks like some. slight wear on the rev. devices compared with other graded MS in post. I.E.: seeds on wheat stalks, one cent etc. No opinion on color unless in hand. Report this Post to the Staff
Jamez Pillar of the Community United States 750 Posts	Posted 06/15/2008 5:57 pm Nice looking Lincoln. Personally I would not slab it. I like the color in the picture 2 if thats the true color. I agree there looks like some rub on the cheek and there is a small distraction under the M on the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
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