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1966 $100 United States Note - Water Damage, Fake, Error?

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 Posted 03/16/2018  11:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Someone I do business with frequently has this 1966 $100 Red Seal, however the red ink from the final printing is extremely suspicious looking. The note has a very strong musty smell to it, so I'm guessing its water damage, but the color of the ink is also off, so I'm wondering if its actually a fake or some type of error. Anyone have any ideas?

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1966-$100-United-States-Note---Water-Damage,-Fake,-Error?
1966-$100-United-States-Note---Water-Damage,-Fake,-Error?
1966-$100-United-States-Note---Water-Damage,-Fake,-Error?

1966-$100-United-States-Note---Water-Damage,-Fake,-Error?
1966-$100-United-States-Note---Water-Damage,-Fake,-Error?
1966-$100-United-States-Note---Water-Damage,-Fake,-Error?
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 Posted 03/16/2018  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paxbrit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like someone soaked it for a week. No comment on if it's genuine or not.

Value is $100, no more. Tell your friend to go spend it. If he wants an investment note, he should buy one, this bill is not it.
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 Posted 03/16/2018  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He's a coin dealer and had already bought it, he thought it was some kind of ink smear error or something, but the color was an instant warning flag to me that it was damaged or fake.
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 Posted 03/16/2018  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is environmental damage, either intentional or negligent. The red ink used on US paper money is prone to fading and other damage. The fact that it appears on the back like it does and the fuzziness of the red ink elements on the face indicate it has been in contact with something it did not agree with. It is not a BEP produced error.

It is possible that it is counterfeit but unlikely.
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 Posted 03/16/2018  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say real, with discoloration due to some sort of chemical/environmental exposure, deliberate or otherwise.
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 Posted 03/16/2018  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For comparison, you can easily see the serials and seal should be lip stick red and well defined.

Something seems spurious about the OP's note.




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 Posted 03/16/2018  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone! I too am thinking its likely severe water or environmental damage, the musty smell it has seems to indicate that as well lol
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 Posted 03/16/2018  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like it is environmental damage or water damage.
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 Posted 03/17/2018  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting. I can believe it is just damaged, not fake.
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 Posted 03/17/2018  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ron6788 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like more than just getting wet unless it was submerged for some time because the seal is completely blurred. However, if it were submerged it shouldn't still appear dirty. I'm also not seeing any evidence of red & blue fiber threads. With water damage, they tend to run, as well, at least so on other bills I've seen. I'd have to say it appears counterfeit with ink damage, besides.
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 Posted 03/17/2018  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chopped Triumphs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i also believe it's damaged and not a counterfeit.
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I've seen several $2 red seals with the orange appearance in the seal and numbers, but never with the image transferred to the back. As Paxbrit said, maybe been in water for an extended period of time. Other than that, it looks genuine.
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