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Valued Member
Canada
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Hi all, I just recently purchased a 2 cubic foot safe for my RCM NCLT coins. I have read online that one thing to be concerned about is the humidity. Do you think a Eva-dry E-333 Renewable Wireless Mini Dehumidifer and some larger (10g) dessicant packs would be enough to keep the humidity down? I am in Ontario which can get particularly humid during the summer months. Thank you! |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It depends are you in north or south ON. are you near one of the Great Lakes?
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New Member
Canada
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That will be more than fine. I am in Ontario as well and have a 12 cu.ft safe with a Stack-On SPAD-1500 Rechargeable Cordless Dehumidifier. They all have a rating of some sort on them, such as this one that says it's good for 100 cu.ft. You will not likely need anything more than what you have as, unless you leave the door open often, inside the safe will stay dry very easily.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Just put it in the basement and there's no humidity issue. Just make sure you bolt it to the floor. Number one thing convicted burglars have reported. If a safe isn't bolted, they just take the whole safe. Wall bolts would have to be in a stud in the wall.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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I've often wondered about these 200+ lb safes. I know a couple of strong guys could muscle a safe out the door, but with 100 lbs of stuff in it, it would be quite an effort and not the sort of smash, grab and dash that most unplanned burglaries are. Think of the last time you lifted 150 lbs in the gym and imagine trying to walk it the length of the gym. I mean its not impossible, but it would take you a lot of time. Now try to do it in public with nobody noticing and calling the cops.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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They generally return later with enough help to muscle the safe out the door and into a van. Not a lot of folks are going to call the police when a couple of guys with a hand truck get out and enter a home. They'll even cart some junk appliance in the door to make it look good. In and out, five minutes, tops. They know the response times and work around them.
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Rest in Peace
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Andrew99, my wife receives medical supplies once a month. We used to live in a house where you had a full flight os stairs to get to the living/storage area. These supplies are boxes of fluid weighing 30 lbs each. The delivery person would load a hydraulically assisted wheeled hand-truck with 10 of these boxes at a time, no problemo. A small 3' cube box would be no problem to get in and out in 1.3 minutes, including a hydraulic hand wedge to bust the bolts. A larger safe would be much harder especially if two-point anchored (meaning floor AND wall bolted). Any safe with enough effort can be stolen tho.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Put groups of coins in kliplock plastic bags or clip shut shut plastic boxes of sizes the you deem convenient.
Include a 5 or 10 gram dessicant bag in each; that should do the trick.
My safe has a well fitting anonymous looking corrugated cardboard box to cover it. It looks like an cardboard storage box for old clothes or toys or Christmas decorations or whatever.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Agree with sel_69l - individual albums or groups of coins in ziplock bags along with a dessicant pack in each. Then a couple of dessicant packs in the safe. Check and change regularly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My safe has a well fitting anonymous looking corrugated cardboard box to cover it. It looks like an cardboard storage box for old clothes or toys or Christmas decorations or whatever. We do the same, and on the box scribbled "Old flea, and head lice clothing." |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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well, I'm 6'3 270lbs, I think I would just push or drag it out and if I have help an easy pick up and trow in the back of a beat up pick up.
In the same documentary, convicted burglars said they almost always never go in the kids rooms. bee lines to the main bed rooms and kitchens.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Thank you for all of the input everyone. I was planning on keeping it in an upstairs bedroom with it being bolted to both the floor and wall. I was also going to build out the area around it making it far more difficult to remove, even with adequate time. My concern with leaving it in the basement was two fold - humidity and potential for water damage. I did not buy a waterproof safe nor do I want to mount it off the ground. For that reason I am going to leave it upstairs. I like the idea of putting each coin into a Ziploc with it's own little desiccant packet. I just ordered 10x 10 grams each and a Eva cordless dehumidifier. I may also order more little packets and individually bag each one.
@mcshilling - I am in Toronto.
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New Member
Canada
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I've often wondered about these 200+ lb safes. I know a couple of strong guys could muscle a safe out the door, but with 100 lbs of stuff in it, it would be quite an effort and not the sort of smash, grab and dash that most unplanned burglaries are. Think of the last time you lifted 150 lbs in the gym and imagine trying to walk it the length of the gym. I mean its not impossible, but it would take you a lot of time. Now try to do it in public with nobody noticing and calling the cops. I have a 400+lb safe and when they delivered it, it was just two guys and a little dolly. Weight doesn't mean much when you have wheels to push it onto. Fill that sucker up and it is still moveable. If it is not bolted down, then it will always be moveable. Add obstacles like stairs and that kind of thing and it makes it quite a bit harder, but nothing is impossible and really depends on how much time they have. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Back when I was doing carpet installation we were doing a lawyer's office they had an old 2 1/2 foot square iron safe, they said I don't know how you're going to handle that. Five minutes later we had it up on a cart were rolling it down the hallway.
Another time in an insurance office they had 16 fireproof filing cabinets. In 30 minutes two of us had the cabinets gone, the desks gone, and the carpet removed.
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03/20/2018 2:42 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Remember if your safe is air tight, when you shut the door you lock in air full of humidity. Every time you open the door you just change the humid air with new humid air. And without and air circulation, the humidity slowly seaps into everything. Worse yet is a fire. Yes most safes are fire proof or sort of. However, as the safe gets hot, everything inside gets hot too. Maybe it will not get burned but imagine all the plastic melting all over your coins. And too, any cardboard or paper that just gets all sort of messed up and that too all over your coins. I mention this because a dealer I know had such a fire and many, many of his inventory was ruined in a safe. Think about this when you use a safe for coins.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Remember if your safe is air tight, when you shut the door you lock in air full of humidity. Every time you open the door you just change the humid air with new humid air. And without and air circulation, the humidity slowly seaps into everything. Worse yet is a fire. Yes most safes are fire proof or sort of. However, as the safe gets hot, everything inside gets hot too. Maybe it will not get burned but imagine all the plastic melting all over your coins. And too, any cardboard or paper that just gets all sort of messed up and that too all over your coins. I mention this because a dealer I know had such a fire and many, many of his inventory was ruined in a safe. Think about this when you use a safe for coins. Unfortunately I have limited options. In the event of a fire, the coins will be ruined regardless but the safe does come with insurance. I am more so worried about theft. The safe isn't impervious to water which must mean that air is able to enter. I will do my best to limit the humidity in and around the safe. I have never had any issues to date with humidity but this is also the first time I have ever stored my coins in a safe. |
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