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Valued Member
United States
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Seems awfully round and evenly thick. My first thought was genuine but I'd wait for the experts to weigh in.
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Rest in Peace
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Suspect applied desert patina, and like said, round and even. The scratches could be part of the Patina "effect". Don't know, but doesn't seem right.
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 United States
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The thickness and the fake desert patina are a give away for me. I bet if you were to wash the coin in warm water most of that patina would was off.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you all for your replies.
I feel slightly gutted.. I guess I won't be picking this up then. He has a few other coins I was considering to buy which may have the same sort of "desert" patina. Will be posting those shortly! I have to admit..I'd like to think that I am able to spot fakes but this one was a really tricky one for me!
Thanks again
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United States
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To be fair, we see some real coins with a fake desert patina applied to them. See, for example, this prior CCF thread for a thorough discussion of the topic by our own @bobL: http://goccf.com/t/251229We have seen this fake patina being used to hide details such as surface porosity and damage (and even a hole in one case). In you case, it seems like the host coin is also a fake--I have not seen real ancient coins with such an evenly perpendicular edge before. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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United States
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That's true Dave, the fake patina is a red flag that there is something that might not be right with the coin. The details on this particular coin look good, but the thickness and how flat and round the edge is, is another red flag IMO.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Not to be argumentative but I have been asked to comment at the op's request. Looks perfectly genuine to me, both coin and patina. This coin, to my eye, has been sort of "half-cleaned", good enough to identify and sell. Due to the scuffs, a full professional cleaning was probably deemed not worth the time.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would tend to agree
While it is really impossible to assert 100% that a coin is genuine from a picture alone, I have no serious issues with the coin itself. The "desert" patina looks genuine and the flan scratches are common for the type.
But we have seen a recent "glorification" of the desert patina and more than a few intrepid salesman hawking an inventory seemingly made exclusively of the type and coming in a rainbow selection of 5 shades of "desert".
In this case the color may have been 'enhanced'. But if the price was right I would not turn the coin away either !
A night long bath in acetone would reveal any artifice.
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks for identifying it Kushanshah! much appreciated.
I've got another set of 3 Seleucid from the same jeweller who is offering to sell me this coin. You can find the topic by scrolling down under the name of "3 Selecuids - Fake or real - desert patina"
As FVRIVS mentioned, the so called "desert" patina is making everyone sceptical which is why I posted the suspected ones in the forum!
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I agree with all of the comments which taken together, add up to fake.
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Valued Member
United States
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I don't think I've ever seen a coin that created such contrasting opinions!
Edited by PhoenicianX
03/28/2018 09:12 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The example shown on Wildwinds has more than enough similarities to satisfy me. The squared edges are very much similar   |
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