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Turns out I am soon to be the humble new owner of some amazing pieces of history. Although I lost out on 2 of the 4 Doug Robins' lots from today's Heritage Auctions offerings that I was interested in, I did manage to be top bid (I'll be lucky if my wife talks to me before next xmas...) on not 1... not 2... but FOUR dragon slayer brockage errors. I present the following 1852 1/2 Penny & 1852 1 Penny brockages which will be entered into my collection, followed by another pair of 1852 1/2 Penny & 1852 1 Penny brockages which will go up for sale (to keep peace in the family) Keepers   Sellers   Edited by Wade
04/20/2018 8:54 pm
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Although not my area of collecting these are really cool amazing errors, congrats !
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Congrats, Wade. I won only 1 lot of several I was interested in. What venue will you be selling the spare brockage pieces at?
Gene
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totally unsure if I will ebay or offer here raw, ask heritage to keep them and re-list raw, or send them off to NGC/PCGS and then list in either of the 3 previous venues. |
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ABSOLUTELY AMAZING ! Here's something I noticed looking over those luscious tokens; on the third one down, in the right side photo, the imprint looks like it is too large for the planchet (the other 3 strikes all fit well inside the rims). Is it larger? If so, how would it be a larger imprint ? It looks like the size of a penny die  ..... |
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Won't know until I have them in hand, but I suspect both of the last 2 are possible capped dies and not brockages.
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My Daddy was born in New Brunswick, and I had handfuls of Canada coins from when we visited there in the 1950's. Of course I put them all in 2x2's, and that is about the extent of my Canadian coins. But seeing those pictures of 'Dragon Slayers' really kindles a new interest for me. Lordy, that is a handsome coin! Please, could you tell me how many years was that series minted? Is there a key date?
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Those are beautiful tokens Wade! Congratulations!
I bet it will be hard to part with any of those once you have them in hand.
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1850 1852 1854 1857
there are a few key varieties (1850 1P dot) (1854 1/2P & 1P crosslet 4)
but in general 1850s are the toughest to find in mintstate where as 1857s are abundant in comparison
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The lighting is really tricky... When you get them in hand, let us know if the features on the "brockage" side are in positive (raised) or negative (sunken) relief?
They cannot be brockages if the mirrored devices are raised... but the lighting could be playing tricks with my mind with those images...
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Looking closer, the only one I like is 3rd image (first one listed in sellers). It is definitely stretched out a bit after a few strikes, enlarging the devices, and devices warping around a die cap.
The other ones I have to ask, if they are early strike brockages, where are the denticles? The second one looks highly suspect... crisp, sharp, not enlarged, but no denticles associated with the reverse die.
The first thing I would do when you get them in hand, is weigh them all. They should be consistent with normal dragon slayer coins....
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Obviously if these are brockages one side of the coin would be protected from circulation.
However it is curious that, especially on the second coin, the grades on the opposing sides of the coins are quite different.
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the weights are good, within .15 grams on the 1P and dead on for the 1/2s.
looking at the images as thumbnails they jump out as incused.
as enlarged the depth perception is tricky.
will update once in hand
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coins have arrived, all incused, and although I am not a certified expert in brockages I am confident that these are as described by Heritage Auctions. all show sign of cupping & distortion, as well as railroad rims. a couple are now up for sale on ebay, I am open to offers from member's of CCF  Edited by Wade
05/09/2018 10:31 pm
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