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1962 D Lincoln Memorial Cent - Small Date Vs Large Date

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1962 D Lincoln Memorial cent had two varieties, below is the post image to compare the difference between 1962 D large date vs small date.

Large Date:
1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date
1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date

Small Date:
1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date
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I learn something new every day.. Thanks for this!

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Ah, nope. There weren't two separate hubs used in 62, so right off the bat you're sunk. Explaination? Two factors metal flow and later die states. Note the closeness of the 2 to rim on #1, but the filled in leg of the 2 on #2. Then to be totally apples to apples your diagonals are different.to compare, use bottom of 1 and top of 2. No difference in MASTER HUB but slight differences within working hubs.
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Some days I un-learn things as well..
No wonder I never saw one before..
Thanks for this!

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The rest of the devices are normal sized. I would like to see a close in shot to see what happened to the coin. If it were grease the device would widen. If it were damage, then the metal would show movement. I have an option #3, but if this is the only coin, then it wouldn't be that. This is the first time I've seen this. But it still doesn't make it a small date. Just an altered date.
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Thank you for your professional analysis! Mr Coop. Below is the above two varieties whole view close in shot post. I have found another difference between the mint mark; "D" of the LD type is touching the bottom line of "9", by contrast SD(AD) type is far away from "9"

Large Date(Normal Variety)
1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date

Small Date(Altered Date)
1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date

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Clearer posts of the above two different varieties;

1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date
1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date

1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date
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You do realize that Mintmark s were placed by hand on each working die, so there will be much variance in location one die to another and shouldn't be taken into consideration unless comparing for die stage progression?

See two different coins, both in different die states and Die Deterioration states.
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That's the first time I know the Mintmark of US coin was placed by hand. That's hilarious!
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Mint marks were added to working dies by hand until 1989. Their target area was below the date and to the right of the bust, so they could be almost anywhere, or upside-down, or sideways.
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Thank you! Fuzzy317. But it's really a complicated working procedure!
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Neither small date nor altered date. In my opinion the appropriate name should be "low 6". Below I post new pics with analysis colour lines.

Low 6(Error Variety)
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1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date

High 6(Normal Variety)
1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date
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I just discovered the "2" of low 6(error variety) was vertical upright, but the "2" of normal variety was slightly incline forward.
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The green line of two new pics distinctively analysis difference between the "2" of error and normal cent of the 1962D LMC.

Error Variety(The Only Cent): Vertically Upright
1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date
1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date


Normal Variety: Inclined Forward
1962-D--Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Small-Date-Vs-Large-Date
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There is not a small and large date variety for 1962 cents. What you are seeing is

1. Die abrasion in the 1 making it appear smaller and
2. Die Deterioration on the 2

And yes mintmarks were added by hand, so location would vary on every coin you look at.
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Tanman2001, regardless of whether deterioration or abrasion die, maybe the vertically upright"2" of 1962D LMC is still a "Only Cent".
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