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I pulled this from a junk bin several years ago. I realize that the condition could be a bit better, to say the least, but I'm trying to figure out where it was minted. If possible, I wouldn't mind narrowing the date range as well. If it's too far gone to make much out of it, I understand.   Here is a closer picture of where I think the mint name is. I may be wrong- I don't really know much about these.  EDIT: If it's of any use, the maximum diagonal is 20.0 mm, side length is 15.2 mm, and mass is 1.500 g. Edited by Numisma
05/05/2018 3:23 pm
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Anonymous silver dirham from the western Mediterranean struck from @ 550-750 AH.
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Ron, do you have the Album number? I was going to look there to try to find a match, but I don't want to duplicate your efforts.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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No Dave, I actually just ordered the book a few days ago but it hasn't arrived yet.
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Thanks a lot. If you don't mind, I'd appreciate hearing what the book has to say when it arrives.
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OK well, it is either Album 496 (without mint name, like my example) or Album 497. I'm pretty sure yours does have the mint and it would be in that left, lower area where you have circled. I'll see what I can do, but I'm pretty slow at this even when the writing is clear.  Added: Maybe Sabta? Sorry but I can't really tell for sure. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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05/06/2018 8:17 pm
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Here is a link to a similar coin on VCoins ( no mint) which explains the legends, dates, etc. https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/da...Default.aspxI looked at your photos for quite a while this afternoon and I agree it looks like there may be a mint name but due to the condition, it's a bit like finding animal shapes in the clouds. If I had to be pinned down on the most likely candidate, I would say Sijimasa in Morocco. The normal position for a mint name is the lower left of the first photo (obverse, though not unknown on the reverse). To confuse things even more, the mintless coins sometimes have various dots, annulets and flourishes in that same spot, which may be what we really have. In any event, I've written what I think (imagine?) I see as a layer on top of your photo:  Edited by Kushanshah
05/07/2018 12:36 am
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Thanks a lot. It would be great to know where it was struck, but I can't say I'd be disappointed if it's too far gone.
On another note, the other day I got a copy of Richard Plant's Arabic Coins and How to Read Them. I doubt it would be of much use here, but I've learned quite a bit already.
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On another note, the other day I got a copy of Richard Plant's Arabic Coins and How to Read Them. I doubt it would be of much use here, but I've learned quite a bit already. Check page 72.  I started with Plant 20 years ago. Another very useful book is O. Codrington, 'A Manual of Musalman Numismatics', 1904. Reprints and pdfs should be readily available. Contains extensive lists of mint names, titles, legends, etc in Arabic with English translations. I refer to my copy frequently. Edited by Kushanshah
05/07/2018 02:19 am
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A quick look online shows the 2013 edition available for $26 on Amazon, so I may get a copy. Is that the best source available for this sort of information? I consulted with page 72 of Plant, but it just gives a half-page summary of Almohad dirhams with a transcription of the mint-less type. Compared to that, though, mine definitely seems to have an extra line of text below the Kalima, so I'm fairly confident in your opinion that it does name the mint. |
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Is that the best source available for this sort of information? It is for me, although clearly, I'm still a rank amateur on these. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Finally received my copy of Islamic Coins and their Values by Tim Wilkes. I must say I'm a bit disappointed in it. I was hope it would go into some identification details, but it does not. It does have very nice pictures of the coins listed though.
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