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Mystery LWC Counterstamp. Suggestions On What It Is?

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I see what you're saying there Swamp. Clever.
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Just a thought -- a die maker may have created this as a test piece to test whether or not s/he could make sharp right angles and a perfect oval.
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The M.C. Escher thing is interesting but I don't see it as intentional. Your brain has a tendency to flip incuse versus raised with images on a screen, like with black and white pictures of moon craters, etc. I'm not sure that you'd see the same effect with the coin in hand.

I'm still curious where all the metal goes with a stamp this deep. Is it out the back and that's why the reverse is so damaged in that area? Is the coin humped out on the reverse?
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Very clever of whoever made the die for sure..! Glad you now see it too..

I'm happy you have coin in hand, because I'm still trying to figure out where all the levels are cut (as on which side of some of the faces,) whether the maker somehow added darkener in places, did some rewelding to add surface back onto his die and where all the bevel points are..?

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The coin is almost 20 mm at its narrowest and over 20 at its widest. That much metal displaced actually made the coin bigger in all directions.
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The M.C. Escher thing is interesting but I don't see it as intentional.

Nice to see another thinking man..

However, I absolutely see it as intentional.. Why else take the time to make a die in such a manner if not for that reason..?

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The coin is almost 20 mm at its narrowest and over 20 at its widest. That much metal displaced actually made the coin bigger in all directions.


Thank you for that info..

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Just a thought -- a die maker may have created this as a test piece to test whether or not s/he could make sharp right angles and a perfect oval.

For the individual I suppose that is a possibility, since we know the tools exist to make the angles and half-ovals..

However, the maker taking the time to get the angles correct to create this illusion suggest otherwise..

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I'd expect something more deliberately Escher-esque if that was the intention, like a fish becoming a duck. All I see is a stylized Z or N through an oval, someone's company logo or just an idea for a cool design.
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