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*** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! ***I don't think I'll be using the services any longer. Everything I send comes back as NOT A DOUBLED DIE. I find it amazing how minute little tabs can be considered doubled but not this. 2017 Ellis Island quarter. Look at the doorway and windows.  
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I don't know exactly what you think is doubled in your pics but they look pretty close to actual design.  |
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United States
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Yeah, looks like the intended design. Just take a breath, and make sure to check the intended designs on the US Mint website before you send it in! Good luck!
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I don't see any doubling.  to the CCF! |
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New Member
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You don't see that brick inside the top rh corner of the door or the stuff going on inside the rh window? You think your example is identical? I've looked at 100 of these and found 3.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sorry, I don't see any doubling either.
Also, real doubled dies on the newer quarters almost always have doubling at the center of the coin. The area you're showing is towards the edge of the coin.
Edited by Tanman2001
06/10/2018 12:59 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Me neither.  to the CCF! |
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United States
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Ok, then tell me how the window doubling works on Ozark Riverway quarters windows which is marginal at best and not here.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I see the difference you are mentioning, but I personally don't see how this fits the definition of a doubled die. A doubled die is when the die itself was accidentally engraved with a double image of the devices and so the coin made from it will have a normal device and its twin right beside it. The "brick" you refer to is stand alone. BTW - it would be a good idea to stop paying someone to verify these until you are sure. You can post pictures to this forum and we will gladly help you ID your coins. Also know that on alot of DDs that the price to have them slabbed is way more than the coin is worth. Just having it in a slab willnot make a 2.00 coin be worth anymore. You lose money. If you have a good DDO worth some value, like a 1972 DDO (the good one - there are some weaker ones), then the coin is only worth paying to get slabbed for two reasons: 1. You personally enjoy slabbed coins in your collection. or 2. You plan to sell it on ebay etc. People on ebay are not all aware of the very wise words commonly stated on this forum and others: Buy the coin, not the slab. So slabbed coins will bring in a better profit, usually, when selling online. BTW- your extra brick could be from a deteriorated die or a die chip. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2Edited by Earle42
06/10/2018 1:41 pm
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New Member
United States
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I guess I should explain that I'm not doing this to sell or slab. All I wanted is to have a new find get listed. Now I don't care. I will post some of my 40 odd findings and let you guys have the credit if they are as I have no more faith in attributions, as I explained earlier.
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...I will post some of my 40 odd findings and let you guys have the credit if they are as I have no more faith in attributions, as I explained earlier. No one here could take credit unless they have a coin with the identical error / variety.. We can't submit your photos for attribution.. By the way -- I've been doing this sixty years and just made my first unattributed-as-yet find last week.. It's possible you'll have a bit of time invested before finding your first too.. Just so you know.. Swamp Edited by da Swampster
06/10/2018 2:25 pm
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I have no more faith in attributions, as I explained earlier. No more faith in who? The way I thought it worked was third party graders grade and attributers (hopefully knowledgeable) attribute. Graders seem to rely on known attributes before labeling something unknown to them. Thanks, Doug. Edited by Halo1st
06/10/2018 10:39 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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We can't take the credit if you find a DD. It's your coin, after all. If you think you have found a new DD and post pictures here on the forum (free of charge), we will definitely tell you if it's a DD and if you should have it attributed at a TPG. If it's a new DD, you can have it listed on a website with a database of doubled dies. You seem frustrated with the attribution services of TPGs. The reason they won't attribute your coin as a doubled die is because it isn't doubled. |
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. A doubled die is when the die itself was accidentally engraved with a double image of the devices and so the coin made from it will have a normal device and its twin right beside it.
The "brick" you refer to is stand alone. But since they went to the single squeeze hubbing often the doubling is only in the central areas of the design and it is frequently just a single feature. Look at the Minnesota State Quarter where just parts of single trees were doubled, or the 2009 LP2 cents with Lincoln having a doubled thumb or just a couple fingers doubled. |
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United States
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Conder101 is correct. They're now using Single Squeeze Hubbing. Now a lot of the times, only the central areas of the design is doubled. Usually, they're only minor Doubled Dies.
Errers and Varietys.
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