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How Far Back Can We Go? Fifth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth -- 1 groschen, 1611:
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another one:

GROSS.REG.POLO.1.6.11
GROSSUS REGIS POLONIĆ
groschen from the kingdom of Poland
SIG: III: D: G REX.POL.M.D: L.
SIGISMUNDUS TERTIO REX POLONIA MAGNUS DUX LITHUANIA
Sigismund the third, king of Poland, grand duke of Lithuania
Krakow mint:
mint master: (m) Baltazar Stanislawski (1609-1615), Royal Mint director
Kopicki 798, with rotated 6 an missing arm on the cross
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Here is a Half Real from Spain dated AD 1611:

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1611 King Louis XIII of France and Navarre

Double tournois

Paris(A)
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Half franc (Demi-franc)

Toulouse(M)
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1611 Johann Georg I and August, Saxony-Albertine Line

Thaler

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great toning, like many of your coins t360 !
Louis XIII was only 9 or 10 on this coin

below a 1610 jeton from Neurenberg (die cutter HK = Hans Krauwinckel) featuring the coronation of Louis XIII in the cathedral of Rheims

Obv. portrait of the king (age 8 at that moment)
legend: HK* LVDO. XIII. DG. FR. ET. NA. REX. CHRISTIAN.
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Rev. view of the walled city of Rheims, a celestial hand holding la sainte Ampoule (with ointment for the coronation) above the cathedral
legend: FRANC. DATA. MVNERA. COELI XVII OCT
below: RHEMIS 1610.

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1611 King Louis XIII of France and Navarre

Beautiful coins! And a wonderful display of the difference in result from hammering and mechanical coining (I think one can see which is which ).
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Louis XIII was crowned so young because his father, Henri IV le Grand died on the 14th of May 1610. The assassination of Henri IV was a major political event in the religious wars that plagued Europe, in particular France, the low Countries and Germany for decades.

below two examples of a 1610 jeton from the United Provinces, Dordrecht mint, made shortly after the assassination. Henri IV was admired in the Dutch republic because he advocated freedom of religion in France. Moreover, he played an important role in the making of the 12 year truce between the Spanish Netherlands and the Dutch Republic (1609-1621)

Obv. two doves amoureux above a bible
RELIGIO. AMOREM. S. C.
Rev. a wolf with a Jesuit hat (Ravailhac) attacks a sheep (king Henri IV)
NON. CAEDES . FOVET. and the date CIC. IC .CX

the legends from obv and rev.combined translate into: religion favors love, not murder (if only this would be always true)
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here a Dutch pen drawing of the assassination:
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below a Neurenberg jeton (no date ....) with a good portrait of Henri IV
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and a Dutch pen drawing by H.Jacobsen 1614: Hendrick de IIII coninck van Vranckrijk en Navarre
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a 1610 jeton from Neurenberg ... featuring the coronation of Louis XIII in the cathedral of Rheims

Great jeton @1c5d, another reminder of the process of succession in the French monarchy, and even that Paris wasn't always the heart of the Frankish world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coron...nation_sites

Clearly the square towers are those of Rheims' Notre Dame cathedral (though Krauwinkel appears to have taken some artistic liberty with the space between them): How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Fifth-Edition!-Ended-At-1461-Waiting-On-1460-C.-E.-A.-H.-864
The two narrow towers to the right are probably those of the Basilica of St. Remi, where the Holy Ampoule and its reliquary were kept between coronation ceremonies.
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The two narrow towers to the right are probably those of the Basilica of St. Remi, where the Holy Ampoule and its reliquary were kept between coronation ceremonies.


very interesting point tdziemia !
this little jeton with a whole page of the history of France attached is one of my favorites
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1610 -- Kingdom of France, double tournois
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1610 -- Kingdom of France, double tournois
Nice cameo!
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Here is a Thaler from the German Duchy of Saxe-Weimar dated AD 1610. I know that some folks collect these (as opposed to me who am focused on getting OFEY on the cheap), but the feel of an old silver Thaler like this one is pretty intoxicating.


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1610 King Henri IV of France and Navarre

Double tournois

Paris(A)
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1610 Johann Reinhard I, Count of Hanau-Lichtenberg

Teston
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