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Why Did I Buy This Ratty Old Coin?

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My interest in ancient coins stems from my love of history. So when the opportunity came to own an interesting historical piece I opened my wallet. So why did I want this ratty old denarius? First of all it gives me a second Tiberius denarius and one I did not have. However, the most important reason is the connection of these coins to an important historical event. In this case it is the revolt of the Iceni against the Romans led by Boudica. Though the literature below says the hoard is only probably related to the revolt, that was enough for me. The thought that this hoard and therefore this coin may be related to such an important figure and such an important event meant that I really wanted one of these coins.
I have also ordered a copy of the British Numismatic Journal 86 2016 in which the hoard is published.
This is my first coin from a known hoard. Please feel free to post your own hoard coins.

From Numismatic News
Britain's "Celtic Coins," a.k.a. Chris Rudd Ltd., have announced that on Monday, June 4, the firm will be offering for sale coins from the fabled Quidenham hoard via their website: http://www.celticcoins.com/ The posting is scheduled that morning for 9 a.m. local time.
The hoard consists of 22 Roman silver denarii and 25 Icenian silver units discovered at Quidenham in Norfolk, 2014, by a metal detectorist. It is historically important in that it provides a further numismatic link with Queen Boudica's rebellion against the Romans in 60-61 C.E. Like contemporary known hoards, it is likely it was concealed during the revolt.
Among other pieces, it contains three examples of the so-called Tribute Penny, denarii of Emperor Tiberius, all minted at Lugdunum (Lyon) post-14 C.E. Full details of the coins can be found in The British Numismatic Journal 86, 2016.
http://www.numismaticnews.net/artic...-sold-june-4
From Chris Rudd
"In 2014 an important Treasure hoard of 22 Roman silver denarii and 25 Icenian silver units was unearthed at Quidenham, Norfolk. Probably related to Boudica's revolt in AD 60-61 (Dr John Talbot pers.comm. 26.3.2018), this hoard contains some fascinating types and is offered exclusively to the clients of Chris Rudd. "
"Nos. 19, 20, 21 are said to be the 'Tribute Penny' referred to by Jesus in his famous 'render unto Caesar' speech (St.Matthew 22.17-21). "
http://www.celticcoins.com/wp-conte...-webQuid.pdf

Tiberius 'Tribute Penny'. AD16-37. Silver denarius. 17mm. 3.48g. RCV 1763. Nr VF, bold head, clear Livia. Found Quidenham hoard, Norfolk, 2014.

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The historical and Biblical significant is what is important to me, the condition is not a issue with me. I've been wanting one these for years but have not been able to afford one. Excellent coin.
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Many thanks Ron for the kind comments. I hope you can find one for yourself soon.
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Here is the record of the hoard from the Portable Antiquities Scheme database. Yours is coin #21. Very cool!
https://finds.org.uk/database/artef...rd/id/634521
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Thanks @Kushanshah for the comments and the link!
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 Posted 07/23/2018  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is super provenance for your coin!
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That is pretty neat, especially knowing where it was found.
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That ratty old coin is a gem. Amazing!
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Thanks again all for the kind words.
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Orfew;

Of course there are many people who take the bible literally and especially the new testament. If that is the premise that the word is correct, even the very very very worst condition of these coin might be the one Jesus actually handled in the story.
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