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Pillar of the Community
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Don't give up so soon.....  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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That outline places the right edge of the "0" much too close to the second 9. There is a much larger separation in this area on the actual 1909.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like someone tried moving the 1 with a nail to make it look like a 1909-S. So if this was made to be altered with a nail or a punch, the dent on the reverse should be on the right wheat lines on the left side.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I had a 1919 S do the same thing. I saw the intials in the first shoulder picture you posted. Sorry
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Valued Member
 United States
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Here is the reverse closer pics of the top right of the wheat.   |
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 United States
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I know that I'm a little late to the party, but I'm with @coop on this one. It looks to me like it was a 1919-S that someone modified to make look like at 1909-S. The excessive wear has mostly obscured this deception.
@chavez asked about worth at one point also. Any thoughts out there whether this is worth more than a quarter in this condition?
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can you get a sharper photo of the "N" in "UNITED"?
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Valued Member
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I know where he is going with that question:   |
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Rest in Peace
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This question should have been put to rest after NSS-52 pointed out the initials. I dont even have to circle them to point it out any better. Coins is a 1919S, period, END OF STORY!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Correct. But I though we would dig deeper to see if there is something else someone could think of.
1.So we have initials. So it is a 1919-S.
2.It is a RDV type 4. 1909-S had both that year.
3.Full rim on both years.
4.We Identified where the 1 was on the reverse of the coin. It doesn't look hit hard enough to be a strong contact mark.
5. Determined the space was not wide enough for a zero digit in that area.
Brainstorming can help us in later searches. Know what to look for and where.
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Pillar of the Community
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The coin is clearly 1919-S. I'm hesitating on it being altered, however. This coin has seen extremely heavy circulation. The entire date area shows extensive wear and no recent evidence of tooling. It certainly isn't all that odd to see an early San Francisco cent with weakness in the date. If the date had been altered, it would have been a long time ago, certainly in the 1950s or earlier. But why? A 1909-S VDB only sold for $10-$12 in the 1950s and a 1909-S would have been in the $3-$5 range then. It would not have been worth the alteration back then. The wear since any alteration would suggest extensive circulation after the fact. Wouldn't a 1919-S with an obviously altered date attract enough attention in the 1950s or 1960s to be pulled out of circulation and land in a "keeper" or "curiosity" box? I'm leaning toward the date issue just being the result of heavy circulation and the random dings and damage from a long, hard life in commerce. Just my 1 1/2 cents worth of speculation.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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1919-S Basically a few cents. I remember my Dad said he worked 6 days a week for $5 years ago. So the money value was totally different back then. 1965 When I first started working, I was paid $1 an hour. (That was Min. Wage then) My first year income tax paid on for the year. $65. (But I was in high school. But it counted on my social security.
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