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You Vs. PCGS 1878 Trade Dollar With Chopmarks

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Guess the grade, give some opinions if you wish. Thanks for looking.I'll give the grade on Friday Morning 9am.



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I'm thinking AU something. Cleaned/detailed. Nice coin though!
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AU58...cleaned

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AU details (cleaned).
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But don't they mention the chopmarks/damage too ?
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I'm thinking (but not 100% sure) all these chopmark coins in slabs should say detailed.
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Good question, I have never paid attention.

This particular example would not seem a logical submission candidate.
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AU-55 Details, cleaned and chopmarked. Probably straight graded by PCGS as AU-55 though.
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I'm thinking (but not 100% sure) all these chopmark coins in slabs should say detailed.


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But don't they mention the chopmarks/damage too ?


Chop marks can straight grade with PCGS but it will be mentioned on the label.
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Good question, I have never paid attention.

This particular example would not seem a logical submission candidate.


It seems to me the vast majority of these I've seen on ebay in slabs are cleaned and detailed.
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Chop marks can straight grade with PCGS but it will be mentioned on the label.


Question answered. I knew that!
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She graded PCGS Genuine, Cleaned -AU Detail, Chop Mark.

I love the Chop Marks and trying to find out what they mean so I can see aprox. where it was at the time in 1878. This was the last year of business strikes too.
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Definitely the Chop Marks add character and are proof they performed the service they were destined for.

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I don't know much about these chop mark coins. Couldn't these be easily counterfeit or fake chop marks? Seems like they could easily be replicated or made. On the other hand, I ask myself why would someone want to intentionally damage/deface these coins?
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I'm not a big fan of chop marked Trade dollars, but that one has more character and appeal than most.
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Couldn't these be easily counterfeit or fake chop marks?


I wouldn't say easily but it's happened before. For Trade dollars it's kind of counter productive though, there's enough already and a decent number of people dislike them shrinking the potential market.

The ones that get the most scrutiny are when you see them on unusual things like a Seated dollar or Half
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