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Pillar of the Community
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And, if not, how did it then get out of the mint? Or would it be fairly routine for mint employees to be allowed to take such home with them? The only thing I'm sure of about this is that it was supposed to be a Lincoln Memorial cent, and that based upon its weight it's a pre-Zincoln.   *** Edited by Staff to clarify topic title ***Colligo ergo sum
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United States
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I am also how Coins like this get through Quality Control, Maybe just happened to get in a Ballistic Bag. I never find any in my Mint Bag of Coins |
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Rest in Peace
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Lucky, these werefound mainly in bags, that were loaded mechanically. How it made it through a sorter... Got me?
Have to ask how a centered broadstrike which is oversized gets in those bags. Planchet too!
Edited by Crazyb0
09/25/2018 8:05 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Another awesome purchase! Nice Off Center Strike!  Errers and Varietys.
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G@LC, as a rule of thumb, would you say that having the date is more collectable (i.e. expensive) than the strike being further off center? I'm just thinking that if this was me doing the mint-assisting, then why not always maximize the value?
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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That is very nice, LC! I don't see it being mint-assisted and, no, employees are strictly prohibited from taking anything home. This is a great example, but as Spence brought up, the value would increase if it showed a clear date. I do believe it being copper and not zinc increases the value (it would for me). In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's definitely a Copper Cent. If it was a Copper plated Zinc planchet, the Copper plating would have broke during the strike, do to the overstretching of the plating.
Errers and Varietys.
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Even with no date it is a very nice error, in my opinion.
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United States
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Agreed still very cool, still looking for one of these
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United States
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Even without a date, still a cool find!
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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A coin dealer friend of mine brought a few hundred examples of gross errors to Sydney from the 'States, several years ago, for his stock list.
Although I have never seen any since that time, and I really treasure the examples I have, I suspect that they are not that rare.
I suspect that such gross errors may have been secreted out of the Mint by some or other clandestine means.
My suspicion rests on the fact that such errors, mainly of hugely off center strikes, are so obvious that they should have been easily spotted by normal means, and under normal circumstances, should have never escaped from the Mint.
Perhaps someone else in the CCF may be able to come up with a better explanation than mine.
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I can't imagine a mint worker willing to jeopardize their job to smuggle this out.
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Billions of cents are minted every year; I doubt if every single one is eyeballed for quality control by a mint employee. Not worth the time. Even the sorting equipment probably only filters so much out before it goes into a bag and out of the building.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If the mint had a .001% (That's one thousandth of 1%) rate of errors getting out, the 4 billion mintage of cents from ONE mint would be 40,000 errors getting out each year.
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09/27/2018 4:59 pm
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Smuggled Out.By Some Mint Employee? Anything is possible, but I'm thinking any riddling or sifting devices of the time would pass this coin easier than a plain or properly struck cent. The diameter of the unstruck portion of the planchet diameter, even though extended from off center strike, the majority or in one direction is less than 19mm. I'm thinking any sifter sized for cents would need to be slightly larger to allow normal 19mm sized struck coins through without clogging up the system. If they ran every coin straight up and flush to or through a tube, might would be a different story. Thanks, Doug. Edited by Halo1st
09/27/2018 11:28 pm
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The value of an undated Lincoln Cent off center strike (particularly a dateless one) is too low to be worth the risk to a mint employee smuggling it out of the mint. "Smuggled" errors tend to be spectacular or impossible ones, like a strike of a coin on a non-mint made token, ect |
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