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Valued Member
New Zealand
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Greetings, I have bought a bunch of inexpensive but intriguing bronze coins, mostly for the fun of trying to identify them. Any suggestions for online resources where I can continue my quest? From another post in this forum it's clear at least one is a bull and horseman coin (jital?) from northwest India, so that's a promising start. I will keep looking through these posts. Apologies the photos aren't the greatest. I can post individual coin pics if required. Many thanks!   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice coins!
I am pretty sure 1 and 3 are modern coins from the princely states. 3 is on the tip of my tongue, but escaping me at the moment. Pretty sure it's from the mid-1800s so it would be in Krause.
2 is a bull and horseman jital, later type with most of the design off the flan. Rotate the top picture 180° and the bottom 90° counter clockwise. There are anonymous types that only say Sri Samanta Deva (a military title, not a name), and also types with the ruler's name. Drnsreedhar could help with that one; I'm really bad at reading Nagari legends if they aren't complete.
4 I am pretty sure is a billon tanka from the Jaunpur sultanate. Can't read Arabic so I can't help you further than that.
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United States
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3 is on the tip of my tongue, but escaping me at the moment. Maybe Jaipur? Mansingh II? |
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@pdg, one thing that you could do to educate yourself on Indian coins is to read the multiple excellent CCF threads by our own @drnsrheedhar. Here is one example of his amazing efforts to make us all just a little bit smarter: http://goccf.com/t/93062"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Valued Member
 New Zealand
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Fabulous, thank you @Finn235, @Bob L and @Spence - Great tips!
After a trawl through Krause and the internet it looks like #3 is indeed from Jaipur (1 new paisa, KM#105?) and #4 a tanka from Jaunpur Sultanate, from the reign of Ibrahim Shah (1402-1440)?
I think #1 is a 1 trambiyo or a 1 dodka from Nawangar state; looks like they were struck for 300-odd years.
Now to do a bit of reading of drnsrheedhar's posts... If I get stuck on the other half dozen coins that came with this lot I'll post again.
Thanks again!
PS Could that be bronze disease on #4? And can billon be affected? I've quarantined it just in case.
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PS Could that be bronze disease on #4? And can billon be affected? I've quarantined it just in case. Billon can be affected by BD since it contains base metal/copper. Looking at the lower pic of #4 I am less concerned about the larger green spots near the top, which look like they sit atop the devices. If they are hard to the touch they are likely verdigris. I am more concerned about the tiny spot of light green at 4:00 that appears to be down in a pit. That might be the powdery evidence of some BD. Quarantining was a good move, imo. |
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New Zealand
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Thanks Bob L! Is that the best way to distinguish BD from verdigris? Those top spots are hard and can't be moved with a toothpick. The lower spot scraped off easily.
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United States
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Yep. The green powdery stuff is, I believe, essentially the residue of the base metal that was eaten away in the pit. That's no doubt a gross simplification...I'm certainly no chemist. But, yeah, verdigris is hard, whereas some of the green residue of BD will often show on your fingernail as you gently scrape across or into it.
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New Zealand
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Thanks Bob L, the sharing of knowledge in this forum is much appreciated.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, #4 is a billon tanka of Ibrahim Shah, Goron & Goenka J6. The date looks like (8)29, at lower left in 1st photo. The name Ibrahim Shah occupies the upper half in the 2nd photo.
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New Zealand
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Thanks Kushanshah! I didn't recognise the numerals hiding down there in the corner, let alone read the ruler's name...
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Canada
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In terms of tips, aside from what has been said, see if any have a year on them. Also, see if you can identify a mint mark. Not all of them do, but you might get some positive hits.
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