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How Can I Tell If My V Nickel Is A Proof ?

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 Posted 10/04/2018  8:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bluewatergg to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey guys new to the site. I was hoping you could help and see if you think my V nickel might be a PROOF? Thank you for any help.
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 Posted 10/04/2018  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a proof. And what happened to the luster on that coin as it is in exceptional condition - possibly over-dipped? Maybe a counterfeit?
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I would say, with an 80% chance, yes. Based on the sharp details and overall color, even though I'm basing it from a photograph. The only way to be certain is to have it graded. If so, let's see if my assessment is correct, PF66 or MS67. Definitely a nice piece.
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 Posted 10/04/2018  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This ought to be interesting
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I replied to your thread in the grading section - we'll need pics with different lighting from different angles to determine if this is a proof, and to determine the grade.

@Ballyhoo - not sure how you can determine if it's a proof or business strike from these pics....could just be a well-struck business strike.
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 Posted 10/04/2018  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty sure it's not a proof by the rounded rims . And yes I believe this ONCE MS-66 was dipped too long removing all of the coins luster .
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Perhaps, pics taken at angle will reveal reflective surfaces if present? Regardless, certification would be recommended.
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Perhaps, pics taken at angle will reveal reflective surfaces if present? Regardless, certification would be recommended.


I do not understand. If the forum can determine its not a proof (using better pics), then, then why spend the money for slabbing? Especially if it would come back as improperly cleaned? What am I missing here?
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 Posted 10/05/2018  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wizardnyc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The current photos make the coin look dipped n(stripped of luster). Can you upload better photos? Great details though!

Is that a small die break at 1 o'clock? Did proofs have die breaks?

Those 1883 N/C coins often had some really nice die breaks.
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I'm for one NOT recommending sending this coin in for a proof designation . With that complete lack of luster it will be not worth it .
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Is that a small die break at 1 o'clock? Did proofs have die breaks?

I don't see a die break. I do see a die crack, and yes proofs can have die cracks.

However I do not believe it to be a proof due to the weakness in the left side of the wreath (The right side is unusually strong though). As for those who have said it can't be a prof because of the lack of luster, I thing the images are giving it that dull washed out appearance.
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I don't believe this to be a proof.To Me it is a MAD.If you look at the twelve o'clock rim, it' is rounded,right before the edge,then squares off.And at six o'clock,it is so close to the rim,that it gives it a squared look.
The reverse is a little blurry so I can't tell,but I think the same effect is there too.JMO
Still,a very nice coin though.
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If I may ask, are the photos posted actually scans? Scanned coins often do not show luster and appear as these images do. It also looks like the pictures are slightly out of focus, which may be affecting how square the rims look. Rim squareness is a diagnostic of a proof.
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 Posted 10/06/2018  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say not a proof.
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The detail on the face screams fake, but why not, send it in, your money.
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