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Farewell LCS And Goodbye Coin Shows

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 Posted 10/06/2018  04:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add freddo30 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The last coin shop in this(not small)county of Ohio has closed ; there are no more. There were 8 and business thrived when I arrived here. Thank the anti-small business stance of the State of Ohio which has also killed the coin shows. The general greying of the hobby should be cited as well as several of those shops closed due to the death of elderly owners sans replacements.
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I also think the "we buy gold" shops that popped up all over the place have siphoned off a lot of the profitable business from the LCS.
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 Posted 10/06/2018  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

@freddo, sorry to hear about that. While this is an unfortunate trend, not all places are so far "advanced" as your county.

Here in my fairly large city/ region, 4 LCS are supported, but possibly they have a different business model.


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I also think the "we buy gold" shops that popped up all over the place have siphoned off a lot of the profitable business from the LCS.


While this is undoubtedly true, all our LCS offer a better rate than the "we buy gold" shops. In one case there is such a store (actually one of those cheque cashing places that also buys gold) in the same strip as our LCS. So in theory a diligent person should go to the LCS instead.

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 Posted 10/06/2018  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've noticed brick and mortar coin shops aren't what they used to be anymore in the New York area . Everybody is into Gold and Silver , although I don't know why because they've both been in a coma for quite some time now .
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In my state (Indiana) we still have good coin shops and smaller, local coin shows. Unfortunately, the "we buy gold" shops have reduced the business LCSs get...but there are definitely still quite a few coin shops around, unlike where the OP lives.
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 Posted 10/06/2018  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thisistheshow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see the internet and ebay as the primary coin shop killer. But of course other factors come into play as well.
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I used to like to go in to my LCS, hoist myself on the stool and look through the Lincoln cents trying to upgrade from a Fine to a Very Fine...those were the days. Details were important, what you did and how you did it mattered.

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 Posted 10/06/2018  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jafo50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

"thisistheshow
I see the internet and ebay as the primary coin shop killer. But of course other factors come into play as well."


This......
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There is an old saying that....

"Things change as things change."

That saying is so true now more than ever!
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I've visited two LCS in two towns that I've lived in. One was rude to me because I wasn't an "Old White Guy". His prices were a little high, but I didn't want to give my business to someone who is dismissive of a potential customer.

The other was also rude to me, had almost exclusively "upper end" Seated and Capped Bust coins, all of which were laughably overpriced (talking $250-500 for common date, uncertified coins). His junk drawers were 1) World coins worth 5 cents or less for 25 cents, 2) Dateless buffs for $1.50 each, 3) Low grade IHC's for $2.50 each. His "show piece" was a Charlotte mint gold $1 with visible wear for $2,500.

I hope that I just have had bad luck, but if that's what is out there, no wonder the LCS is going extinct.
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 Posted 10/06/2018  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinBuffalo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I live in Ohio too and there's nothing really around me either aside from the We Buy Gold/Pawn Shops. Someday I'll check out the nearest one to me but I don't feel comfortable I know enough to not get scammed yet. I always hear negative stories about rude dealers so I'm reluctant.
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There are 3 or 4 here in my area of Indiana, I've been to all but one. I've gotten a decent repoire over the years with the one guy's shop the wife and I frequent. I think repeat business and letting them know you know your stuff too helps.

Shows on the other hand, it's harder for me to feel comfortable.
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 Posted 10/06/2018  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I hope that I just have had bad luck, but if that's what is out there, no wonder the LCS is going extinct.



Unfortunately your experiences aren't uncommon, especially for those of us who are younger than the general coin show crowd as we usually get treated very differently by a lot of places. A lot of them just never adjusted from the days where they could charge whatever because there wasn't much other choice before the internet market got huge. The local coin shows are even worse from what I've seen with the out of town small sellers some of which have no shame.

That said there are still good coin shops out there. Most of the better lesser known ones I've been too seem to generally do something else like jewelry or other collectables as well.
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Most of the coin shows are now collectibles shows...lot of old crappy stuff being sold (not the coins & currency)...stamps have died off. I can see in a few years the ANA and the APS having joint shows similar to ones in Canada.

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 Posted 10/07/2018  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say good riddance. I've never had a positive experience in a coin shop. Even as an 8 year old kid. Actually I should say it was a positive experience but the memory became tarnished when I got back into collecting as an adult and realized that I got ripped off on all the coins I purchased from that shop.

The overpricing of coins at coin shops still continues to this day. I travel a lot for work so I have the privilege of visiting shops in multiple states and the story is always the same. Unreasonable markups on raw coins and even worse on graded coins.

I agree that regional coin shows are worse. I have never seen more junk Seated dollars and capped bust halves marked up to astronomical levels in one place. I used to get frustrated when leaving a show empty handed. Now I wear it as a badge of honor. It's not my fault that they are selling junk at inflated prices.

The internet auction companies are killing the dinosaur coin business models and unless they adapt they will end up extinct. Combine that with all the free education you can get online and it's no surprise that their naïve customer base of suckers are moving to online platforms to purchase their coins.

Side note: These days many coin dealers too purchase their coins at auctions and mark them up 15%. Once you understand and recognize this, unless you're a moron, you will start purchasing your coins at auctions as well.
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