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 Posted 07/16/2008  5:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

Since I am just beginning my journey into error and variety searching, I have decided to take you all along with me! As I search through anything I find that I THINK is interesting I will post images and wait for your educated opinions.

My first penny is a 1973D.

The edge is a little weird and though the camera couldn't capture it quite right, it seems there are 2 lines along the rim but it actually is 3! Also the lettering in IN GOD WE TRUST is shaped quite weird and I don't believe it is wear as the penny isn't in that bad of shape.

thanks for looking and keeping me company on my journey.
malissa

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 Posted 07/16/2008  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats called railroad rim. The reason its called that cause the edge of the coin looks like a railroad track. Its an error but I think its kind of common.
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 Posted 07/16/2008  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok that's something I didn't know. What about how skinny and weird the letter shapes are in god we trust? Are there any specific years that I should be looking at for the more rare errors?
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 Posted 07/16/2008  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

This is not a "railroad rim".

A "railroad rim" is a term used to describe a coin where only part of the collar made contact with the planchet. Some of the planchet is retained and some of the planchet is not.

A portion of the planchet is above the collar during the strike.

The end result is a coin with a flange that looks pretty much like a railroad wheel.

This coin was struck by mis-aligned dies.

What I do see that adds a little interest to the coin is the result of a clashed die. You can see the impressions of the columns upside down and reversed, behind Lincoln's head.

The shape of the lettering being different toward the rim is due to die wear.

I hope this helps,

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 07/16/2008  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Confirming what Bill sees. The striking die was mis-aligned and the pressure of the die's edge striking inside the field forced the metal to flow up around it creating a second rim.
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 Posted 07/16/2008  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My bad I always thought that was called railroad rim (partial collar). I guess you learn something new everyday.
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 Posted 07/16/2008  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so then, what I am hearing is that this has a misaligned die, die wear, and a clashed die? lol I wasnt even looking for or knew what a clashed die was so now I have to go back and start over.

this is like a full time job, only it's a job you obsess over.
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 Posted 07/16/2008  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, my next find.
this is a 1919s penny.

The lettering in the word trust is pretty much gone. I would normally assume that this is just wear but that doesn't fit with the fact that the rim isn't worn down at all and the rest of the coin is in pretty decent condition.

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 Posted 07/17/2008  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I fixed the giant picture problem. Hope that helps with viewing
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 Posted 07/17/2008  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
malissa, if you can, move this to a new post. You will get better coverage if you use a new post with each different coin.
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 Posted 07/17/2008  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears that in the 1973-D cent the tops of the letters of IN GOD WE TRUST are thinned due to intentional die abrasion ("die polishing"). The "double rim" effect may be due to a slight misalignment or it might be a simple case of finning.

The 1919-S cent appears to be a filled die error.
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 Posted 07/17/2008  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Malissadawn,On your 1919-s it looks to me to be a Grease Filled Die varieity, but I'm no expert,maybe foundinrolls will give his opinion on this?If it is it's not worth a whole lot but still is neat to find.
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The rims on the 1909-1935(APROX)coins are wider. (Compare the normal rim on the 1973 and see how much wider the older rims were.)They take more abuse that the later coins. The wear is present on the head. A few later the 1922 Cents were polished so much that the mint mark disappeared off some Cents and they over die polishing removed a lot of details. So I would assume that this is the same thing that happened with your coin.
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 Posted 07/17/2008  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

As mentioned above by several "heavy hitters" , It appears to be a filled die error.

Have Fun,
Bill
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 Posted 07/17/2008  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks everyone,
going to spend the evening searching my pennies and anything new will be posted tomorrow
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Hi Malissa, I am not sure on the 1973-D but the 1919-S is definitely a partially Grease Filled Die error. The missing lettering and weakness of devices is a tell tale sign.
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