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1971 Nickel Dollar Off-Metal Error

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Not the most expensive error in my collection, but certainly the one I love the most. I collect small cent and nickel dollar errors - so this is a wonderful marriage of the two collections. Negotiated a price and picked it up this past week.

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Very cool, was the cent planchet on top of the nickel
dollar planchet when struck to get the uniface obverse?
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This is a cool looking coin, glad it went to a good home !
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Very cool, congrats.
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Now that's cool!!
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That "strikes" me as an extremely obvious error. I do wonder how it got out of the mint...
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why is there nothing on the obverse? and what does uniface obverse mean?
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My theory is that 2 cent planchettes were stuck together their combined thickness world be a little thicker than the expected thickness of a nickel dollar. 3.3 mm in place of 2.62 mm.
That would explain a well struck reverse with a blank obverse.
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Very cool, was the cent planchet on top of the nickel
dollar planchet when struck to get the uniface obverse?


Yes. A cent planchet was on top of a nickel dollar planchet and struck by the hammer die. The coin is very thin, and almost the diameter of a 25c.

Somewhere, out there, is maybe a 1971 nickel dollar with a full obverse, and a reverse with a matching indent strike...
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Yes. A cent planchet was on top of a nickel dollar planchet and struck by the hammer die. The coin is very thin, and almost the diameter of a 25c.

I am curious what makes you say that as opposed to the theory that I offered.
I ask with the intent to learn not to argue.
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Short answer: Occam's razor (the problem-solving principle that the simplest solution tends to be the correct one).

Putting any "mint sport" aside, the odds of a 1c planchet getting into the nickel dollar business strike presses are pretty remote, the odds to support your theory of two 1c planchets sticking together, and entering the same production stream, are highly improbable. It is much easier to imagine a 1-cent planchet hitching a ride somewhere in the mint, getting fed along with a nickel dollar blank into the press and getting struck together. The orange-peel texture tells me it was struck on another blank, and a 1c blank sitting on a pure nickel 15.6 grams planchet getting struck by dies meant to create a dollar coin - would result in a very strong strike.
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So would most then say this is an inside job and not an error. Usually an error is something that happens by accident and there was most likely intent to get a coin like this. There should almost be another numismatic term for coin "error" with manipulation.
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mint sport is the accepted term
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Awesome addition!
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Very nice addition to a collection
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