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How Do You Grade A Rare, But Holed Coin?

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Opinions?

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With a lump in your throat and tears in your eyes.
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Haha! Very true =*(
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I weep.

It's still a $400 coin.
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Isn't any holed coin automatically graded to AG reguardless if the hole is filled or not
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Isn't any holed coin automatically graded to AG reguardless if the hole is filled or not


Not necessarily; especially in the case of a holed coin, it's more about "market grade" than "strict grade," and that means money. You'll note that the (wise) OP asked for opinions and not grades.

Demand determines the value of the coin, and grade derives from demand, in this case. If it's, say, a $450 coin, maybe it's an AG going for stupid money, or an F15 that's a steal. Who cares? It's all about the size of the check with this one.

Me, I'd still write the check. There were only 16,000 of these.
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Thanks SuperDave!
If your well crafted assumption is correct then it fits with my own opinion. That being that the hole reduces the value of the details grade by half. You say F-15 details? Fair enough. I couldn't decide between F or VF.
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Actually, grade is almost meaningless for damaged coins. You just have to price it. I have a very difficult time trying to do this with similar coins. I once sold an 1877 Indian cent (a few years ago) for $75 that looked like a Mack truck ran over it and then dragged it along the asphalt for a few miles.

Personally, I don't want to own any damaged coin, no matter what the "grade" or price. It's just too distracting. For instance, that 1869, for me, would be a lot more attractive as a problem-free AG than as a holed AU.
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Personally, I don't want to own any damaged coin, no matter what the "grade" or price. It's just too distracting. For instance, that 1869, for me, would be a lot more attractive as a problem-free AG than as a holed AU.


I second this. If I get holed coins, I try to move them out of my collection regardless if I need them to fill a set or not.
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I would typically get rid of holed and damaged coins. But with the rarity here, I just don't know. Probably will keep it for a while.
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I have 1 repaired coin in my collection. It was well done and quite deceptive to the untrained eye (like me when I bought it).
I decided to keep it since it wasn't a distraction and probably several hundreds less than a same coin with original surfaces.
I have since had it certified by ANACS.
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1sikevo,
Is the slab marked repaired?
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Yes, it's marked on the slab.
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It's a good thing that ANACS will even grade a repaired or damaged coin.
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I noticed that in the upcoming U.S Coin Auction by Heritage at the Baltimore show, they are offering an 1820 North West Brass Token that was graded by PCGS as Fine 12 which is holed at 12 o'clock. Heritage says most of these coins were so holed, but it makes you wonder just how PCGS makes its decisions on whether to grade or not.
It's also interesting that the hole in your coin is right at one of the thir stars on the obverse. Maybe someone wanting to make a political statement....
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