I Have Some Questions About The American Innovation Dollar Coins.

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Eraserman New Member United States 10 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 6:33 pm I have read quite a few articles and some of them seem to contradict others. https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...designs.html In this article it says the following: "The coins are to be released in the order each entity honored ratified the U.S. Constitution or entered the Union." But in this article it says something different. https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...program.html "The American Innovation Dollar coins are to "be issued in alphabetic order of the State, the District or territory represented, starting with Alabama." So which is it. Also from the first article I linked. The most vocal among the CCAC member was medals specialist Donald Scarinci, a New Jersey attorney. So incensed was Scarinci with the quality of the proposed designs that he called on all Americans to boycott U.S. Mint products, saying he would not buy any numismatic product that featured any coins bearing the designs proposed. While I think that boycotting them would be okay not all americans will be able to since we did not get to see the designs that were submitted. Only the people on the committee got to do that. So we ameicans have no way of knowing what the designs look like and so the government will put them out and we will buy them unknowingly. And from the second article I linked. This is probably the biggest screw up of the whole thing. The 56-individual reverses are to be a designs that reflects "a significant innovation, an innovator or pioneer, [or] a group of innovators or pioneers" from the state, District of Columbia or U.S. territory honored. A provision in H.R. 6025 prohibits the use of any portrait or bust of any person living or dead. How can you make a coin without using a portrait or bust. A painting can be considered a portrait. A photograph can be considered a portrait. A sketch can be considered a portrait. A drawing can be considered a portrait. A statue can be considered a portrait. Any likeness of anyone can be considered a portrait Report this Post to the Staff

TNG Bedrock of the Community United States 10284 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 6:59 pm It would be nice if they made no more than 100,000 each. There is already well over one billion dollar coins in government storage. If there is a certain significant innovation, an innovator or pioneer, a group of innovators or pioneers on a dollar coin that interests me, I might add one to my collection for the type set? Report this Post to the Staff
commems CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives United States 12258 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 7:01 pm Per the Public Law that authorized the coins, "the coins shall be issued in the order in which the States ratified the Constitution of the United States or were admitted into the Union." The alphabetical order note is incorrect. After all of the State dollars are issued, coins for the territories, etc. will be issued in the following order: "the District of Columbia and the territories in the following order: the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, the United States Virgin Islands, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands." Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved. Report this Post to the Staff
commems CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives United States 12258 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 7:05 pm Regarding Scarinci and the availability of the coin designs for public viewing...the Coin World article you linked to has all of the designs Scarinci commented on - just click through the images at the top of the web page (click on the dots under the graphic). The comments were directed toward the single coin to be issued in 2018. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved. Report this Post to the Staff
Alpha2814 Pillar of the Community United States 2023 Posts	Posted 10/21/2018 7:20 pm The "alphabetical" order was in the original version of the bill, as shown in the main thread where we're discussing these: http://goccf.com/t/289949 A later amendment changed the sequence to "admission" order. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187860 Posts	Posted 10/22/2018 10:19 am to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
CelticKnot Bedrock of the Community United States 12815 Posts	Posted 10/23/2018 7:17 pm I've not felt more "meh" about a coin program in a long time. Report this Post to the Staff
Not Mint to Be Valued Member United States 469 Posts	Posted 10/26/2018 6:53 pm My guess is that there is not going to be a big demand for any of them. Report this Post to the Staff
Bret Pillar of the Community United States 1913 Posts	Posted 11/04/2018 9:08 pm Quote: A provision in H.R. 6025 prohibits the use of any portrait or bust of any person living or dead. How can you make a coin without using a portrait or bust. A painting can be considered a portrait. A photograph can be considered a portrait. A sketch can be considered a portrait. A drawing can be considered a portrait. A statue can be considered a portrait. Any likeness of anyone can be considered a portrait You're overthinking this. The key phrase is "of any person living or dead." Having people who have actually lived on the coin is simply prohibited. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187860 Posts	Posted 11/05/2018 3:13 pm Sounds like allegorical figures are good to go. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
rayder Valued Member United States 57 Posts	Posted 02/04/2019 12:40 am Low demand right now = scarcity in the future? Are they going to climb in value over time? Report this Post to the Staff
Alpha2814 Pillar of the Community United States 2023 Posts	Posted 02/04/2019 12:58 am A climb in value would require high demand in the future, which I don't see happening. Report this Post to the Staff
bzookaj Pillar of the Community United States 587 Posts	Posted 02/04/2019 05:58 am Quote: The key phrase is "of any person living or dead." Having people who have actually lived on the coin is simply prohibited. Exactly. There can't be a specific person's likeness on the coin. However, generic caricatures are allowed. Think of the Lowell quarter-- it represents a person on it, but not any specific person. Report this Post to the Staff
Bret Pillar of the Community United States 1913 Posts	Posted 02/04/2019 09:43 am Quote: Low demand right now = scarcity in the future? Are they going to climb in value over time? Getting rid of the dollar bill would put more notice on dollar coins which would likely increase demand. At the same time, we're going more towards a cashless society. Coins are less of a part of people's lives, so I see coin collecting as a whole losing popularity. Look no further than proof set mintages to see the trend. Report this Post to the Staff
ace_ftw Pillar of the Community Canada 1747 Posts	Posted 02/04/2019 10:15 am ok, sorry for putting this on a tangent, but what about the Hawaii State Quarter, that has a statue depicting King Kamehameha, so how does that work? Report this Post to the Staff
nfine Pillar of the Community United States 3468 Posts	Posted 02/04/2019 10:26 am Quote: Low demand right now = scarcity in the future? Are they going to climb in value over time? Recent history suggests the answer to both questions is "no". I have two first release Sacagawea dollars, stuck by VIPs, with a total population estimated to be less than 1000. Paid less than $20 for each in original packaging. Report this Post to the Staff
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