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Were These Slabs Caught In A Flood?

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Check out several of this ebay sellers Mint State slabs. Remarkably, many of these coins look like similar damage.

What's your opinion? Could they have been stored in a non-temperature controlled area? Excessive hot, cold, moisture, condensation, etc...? Could these coins have been graded as pictured or did they deteriorate in the slab over the years?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1939-D-Sil...332827243025

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1938-Washi...332618038942

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1942-S-Sil...332618039925

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-D-Was...332827237641

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1936-D-Was...332618042678

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-D-Was...332618040269

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-D-Was...332655981604
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That's weird all coins look basically the same kind of toning if that's what you want to call it . Looks more like environmental issues . Sorry but I'm not a fan .
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I'm no expert, but if these were in a flood, one would think the paper label would be affected.

Here is one of the quarters from a 2005 Heritage auction. It sold for $1,409.90.
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I'm no expert, but if these were in a flood, one would think the paper label would be affected.

I agree.
Stored under poor conditions, possibly before they were slabbed.
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Good thought. Anyway, beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.
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I'm no expert, but if these were in a flood, one would think the paper label would be affected.

Here is one of the quarters from a 2005 Heritage Auction. It sold for $1,409.90.


I'm not an expert either. I was being more facetious when I said flood. I've never actually tried to submerge a slab in water. I'm thinking they are air tight, not sure. Not going to try it either.

I'm also thinking that guy bought the slab, not the coin in that auction.

Like T-BOP said, it's weird how these slabbed mint state coin basically look the same.

But kanga could be right. This damage may have started before they were slabbed.

I should message the seller and ask him what's the story. I'd be curious to see what his answer would be.
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This one (to me) seems the most shocking. Could this actually grade today as a MS-67?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-D-Was...6b85%7Ciid:1

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Just ugly tone on them. As mentioned the paper labels look fine.
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This is just toning that doesn't look pretty. That's all.
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Just poor scans that make them look much worse and kills all luster. Keyword Scans not pictures
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Ugly toning reduces eye appeal, not grade.
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Just poor scans that make them look much worse and kills all luster. Keyword Scans not pictures


Poor scan? No way!! The barcode label is crystal clear! Why doesn't the label look worse?
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Hes not referring to the detail of the coins, but the appearance. Scans can give coins with luster a muted and ugly look. I used to work woth a dealer who used a scanner to photo his coins and they always looked significantly worse in the pictures, especially coins like blast white morgans.
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Hes not referring to the detail of the coins, but the appearance. Scans can give coins with luster a muted and ugly look. I used to work woth a dealer who used a scanner to photo his coins and they always looked significantly worse in the pictures, especially coins like blast white morgans.


Okay.....thanks.
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I saw a quarter recently, I can't remember which year but it was a slabbed at least 66 and had a perfect thumb print covering both sides. . I'll post it on here if I stumble across it again
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I saw a quarter recently, I can't remember which year but it was a slabbed at least 66 and had a perfect thumb print covering both sides. I'll post it on here if I stumble across it again


It happens.

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