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1925 Buffalo Nickel Wrong Planchet

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 Posted 11/22/2018  9:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add numidan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is a 1925 Buffalo nickel minted on a what I think is a copper planchet.

It weighs 4.87g, diameter = 20.8mm, and thickness = 1.9mm

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Side by side with a 1926 Buffalo nickel

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 Posted 11/22/2018  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@numidan, since it appears to be the correct size and weight, is it possible that either there is environmental toning/chemcial exposure which has caused the copper color or even a post-mint copper-plating?
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Nothing is for sure until I have it analyzed by a XRF tester!

But it looks just right. Click on the first picture, and you will see black oxide on the surface similar to the accumulation on pennies in those days.
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Insignificant chance this could be struck on a copper planchet. Where would this perfectly-sized blank have come from?
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The closes I found with the right composition in that period is:

Nicaragua 1924 1 Centavo 95% copper, 5% zinc & tin, 4.0g, 20.3mm
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Just a note,there are known copper buffs errors http://coinfacts.com/nickels/buffal...n_copper.htm Not saying yours is one though.
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Environmental discoloring on that coin . I have seen Buffalo nickels with many different colors .
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I agree with T_BOP's assessment above-environmental damage. I, too, have seen a number of Buffs with that type of discoloration.
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I lean heavily towards environmental damage leading to a change in the patina.
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A specific gravity test would be definitive. Specific gravity of a .95 CU .05 Zn cent is 8.80 and the specific gravity of a .75 Cu .25 Ni five cent is 8.95. The closeness of the numbers necessitates a good scale and multiple measurements.
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SPP was kind to test it with his XRF analyzer. Thank you SPP!

Here is the result:

Cu: 80.95%
Ni: 18.56%
Fe: 0.12%

Most likely within the tolerance of the mint's metal composition :(
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Quote:
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Ok bummer, but it is really nice of you to follow up by posting your results!
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