1837 Feuchtwangers One Cent Composition Hard Times Token 268

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TNG Bedrock of the Community United States 10284 Posts	Posted 12/26/2018 11:57 pm 1837 Feuchtwangers One Cent Composition Hard Times Token 268 Die Pairing is Obverse 6 and Reverse G as best I can tell from a diagnostic webpage written by Aaron Packard. The Rarity factor is R-3. Please correct me if I am wrong. How many of these are known to exist is not too important to me. But I'd still like to know what R-3 means in this case and what the total mintages were for these? I have wanted one of these for many years and finally got this one that has an honest bit of wear but still is a very nice addition to my collection. I suppose it is in VG condition. Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34397 Posts	Posted 12/27/2018 05:51 am @TNG, that is a super pick-up and addition to your collection. Sorry that I don't know the estimated populations for this scarcity scale. Added: You might want to ask the mods to move this to the US classic coin section of CCF as the regulars there might have more info. That seems to be where other threads with this coin have ended up. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Edited by Spence 12/27/2018 05:54 am Report this Post to the Staff
scopru Pillar of the Community United States 5029 Posts	Posted 12/27/2018 07:27 am Nice pick up TNG 1) Ralau US Tokens 1700-1900 catalog 3rd Edition (1999): 6G is listed as R1 (common). 2) Ralau Hard Times Tokens 2nd Edition (1981) 6G is listed as R2 (less common) Also referenced in book 1 page 133 "Robert Lindesmith opines that die combinations 5G, 5H, 6G and 6I may have been struck during the Civil War, since the 1858 Bushnell and 1859 Cogan lists do not mention them." And on another site several members mentioned a letter in which Feuchtwanger himself claimed to have made over a million. I can not find a valid reference for that. I would certainly say there were many thousands made from 1837 through the Civil War. Report this Post to the Staff
TNG Bedrock of the Community United States 10284 Posts	Posted 12/27/2018 10:05 am Interesting that it could be found during the 1837 Hard Times Token era as well as the Civil War Token era around 1863. I did not know this. Thanks Guys! I appreciate your comments! Since I posted, I found most rarity scales point to a R-3 for about 200-500 pieces estimated to exist. "Early American, Hard Times, and Merchant Token Rarity Scale" states R-3 is simply scarce. R-4 lists up to 200 so that might be a good sign that about 200-500 pieces is possible? Here's the webpage by Aaron Packard that I was referring to for information on these. On his charts he lists this die pair as an R-3 if I followed things right but it could be an R-2 scopru. One thing for sure, it isn't the rare one. http://www.novanumismatics.com/feuc...marriages-2/ Edited by TNG 12/27/2018 10:12 am Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3323 Posts	Posted 12/27/2018 2:02 pm I like the 6G, TNG. I've heard about these being struck in the 1860's as well, but I can't recall any definitive proof of that. Possibly just conjecture by researchers. I can't confirm or deny that information. The 6G that currently resides at my house is graded NGC MS62. The serpent is pretty slick, showing how a good number of these specimens were weakly struck. I would compare yours to other graded specimens and determine the grade accordingly. The Nova site you referenced is my go-to site for the die pairings. R-3 is considered fairly common. But, in the world of tokens scarcity is definitely a matter of perspective. As we all know, a common HTT would be considered very scarce when compared to most circulating items. "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff
scopru Pillar of the Community United States 5029 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 07:49 am It is a fantastic item TNG and I was happy to be able to contribute a tiny bit to the info search. Report this Post to the Staff
ExoGuy Pillar of the Community United States 4415 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 9:51 pm I've long suspected that Feutchtwanger's "white" cents were perhaps the inspiration for Flying Eagle cents. Report this Post to the Staff
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