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TPG Labels - Any On-Line Galleries Or References?

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I'm wondering if there are any galleries or other visual aids to all the TPG companies and their labels. There are so many companies out there and the labels change over time. Just wondering if there's a website that shows all the labels from all the TPGs including those that have come and gone.
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That's a very good question.
I too would like to see a comparison of all of them on one site.
I hope somebody here knows of one.
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Go to Google images and type in slabbed coins.
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Thanks all for the input. The PCGS and NGC websites are great.

The Sampleslabs.com site is almost what I hoped to find, but I don't think it's been updated in 10+ years.

Google images is good if you know what you're looking for, but I want an all-in-one gallery of slab labels, like a visual encyclopedia - might be very useful for spotting counterfeits?

If there isn't one out there maybe we should put one together on this site?
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There are so many companies out there and the labels change over time.


Most of the "companies" can just be completely ignored as they were really basement slabbers. There were a couple legitimate ones that no longer exist, but those were the exception.

Theres really only four that matter now, PCGS/NGC/ICG/ANACS. PCGS and NGC alone have put out thousands of different labels with the special designs ext and NGC is now even doing significant variations of its core.

It would honestly be a full time job trying to keep up with every new label for a database.
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Even if most of the other TPGs are junk, they're still out there. So it could be useful - or at least fun - to assemble a catalog of what's out there. As for labour - I imagine it would be crowd-sourced, people just upload whatever slabs they have, maybe with a short description of when / where they were acquired.
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As for labour - I imagine it would be crowd-sourced, people just upload whatever slabs they have, maybe with a short description of when / where they were acquired.


In an ideal world it would, but that wouldn't be a practical manner for such a database. It could certainly help, but the submisssions would have to be verified for accuracy as well. It also wouldn't be complete without actively hunting down new labels and label slab combos.

For instance The new 2019 ASE will very like result in 50+ new additions on its own. PCGS will have all the label combos, ANACS will do a bunch, NGC will do not only the labels but various colorings and designs on the slab core ect. Then there will be the different labels with different signatures as well. ICG is the only one that doesn't really do a lot with special labels

A complete label database would be a ton of work. The PCGS site while it doesn't give every label is really the best way to tackle it. They give you the info that those will basically all share and you can match it up that way along with match the coin inside if it looks right ect. They also have their cert verification tool available as an app for smart phones and tablets
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The closest thing to what you are looking for was the book I published over 15 years ago. Counting just the production slabs and not the sample. novelty, advertising slabs and body bags it covered the products of 82 companies and 221 different production slabs. If I was to ever get around to doing the second edition, my notes now cover 155 companies and over 330 production slabs. And that doesn't include all the special labels.
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@Conder101

I was hoping you'd chime in.

Is your book still available somewhere?
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@Conder101

That sounds like an interesting project - and exactly what I had in mind. Why not put all that on-line? It sounds like you've already done 90% of the work. A simple image gallery website or even a wiki would do the trick and you could solicit additional material from your readers to fill in the blanks. Then add some affiliate links to cover the costs and earn a few bucks.
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Conder's book can be borrowed - for members - through the ANA library.

David Schwager's book focused on sample et al, not the run of the mill production slabs. The 2nd edition is now.sold out, but the pdf is still available. I'm going to start bugging him to do a 3rd edition, which may mean I have to do some of the real work this time. SampleSlabBook.com


Cam Kiefer's site (sampleslabs
.com) hasn't been updated since his death, it's kept alive partly as a memorial to one of the founders of the branch of the hobby.
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