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1872 Indian Cent. Grade And Comments. Feel Free To Be Brutal!

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I bought this for just under $85.00. It is currently in the mail and will post pics once I get this coin. Here is the Royal mail tracking so we can track this one together. RN267743218GB This is what I call a good risk to reward coin. I know most would never have any interest in a coin like this but I have bought many in this condition when the price is right and many times the verdigris comes right off. I may just finish my bottle of Blue Ribbon on this one! My biggest concerns is the mark by the 1st S in "STATES" and the reverse green spot below the wreath. Any and all comments are welcome. Pics are the seller's.


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 Posted 12/30/2018  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No problem. I like it. I can wait. Let's see the coin in-hand after you remove the verdigris.
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12/30/2018 9:57 pm
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 Posted 12/31/2018  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the verdigris comes off, should look very nice. Will wait for in hand pics.
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12/31/2018 12:15 am
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 Posted 12/31/2018  02:24 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should be a homerun or at least a triple.
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 Posted 12/31/2018  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well you asked for us to be brutal , but you forgot about me . The coin to me looks slightly out of round , there's an awful lot of gunk on reverse that Verdi-Care might not totally remove . Who knows what's under that crap . Might even be starting to etch into coin ( a little corrosion ).And lastly the right side wreath has a lot of wear on it , making the coin look out of balance when looking at the reverse . IMHO you paid too much .
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 Posted 12/31/2018  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have to agree. Even if the verdigris comes off, the surfaces will almost certainly be discolored. And yes, unless the pic is not accurate, that whole right wreath is poorly struck (grease?), which is a huge distraction. Below-average specimen for the grade.
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I agree, the verdigris is heavy, and you never know how much will come off, or what it will look like afterward. The right side of the wreath looks worn, or something.
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With Acetone the gunk should come off. At the price, you did well. Looks like a VF-35 with some reverse strike weakness.
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This coin has suffered all of it's wear very early on in it's life. All wear on the high points have since completely patinated over, to match the rest of the coin.

It is suffering severe lack of design detail over a lot of the design (rev). I think that it due to the reverse die being filled with gunk, because the design is much more complete on the obverse side.

Verdigris doesn't help, but with a lot of patience, that situation could be improved.

On wear alone,
VF35.
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I would buy this for 85 bucks all day long. You should be able to flip it for a pretty penny.
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Nice '72!

More than likely a coin recovered from the dirt?

Cannot wait to see your pictures "in hand".
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look forward to the after pics. I think the price paid was very reasonable for that year in this condition.
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I think this one will be a winner. Looking forward to seeing the after pics.
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vf details ED
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My final call for this coin is VF-35 details scratched. Well, all the verdigris came off as it was the soft greasy type that a toothpick easily removes. No holes or pits noted which was one of my concerns. Hits? Yes by the "S" and "T" in "STATES" and a smaller hits near "OF". Also some hits on "ONE CENT". Right side of wreath was Struck Through Grease. The lighter areas on the reverse I believe were caused by the coin being shuffled around in a box with other coins. If it was wiped or cleaned a lot more of the verdigris would have came off IMO. Light areas will re-tone in time. Has a light woodgrain (woodie) look. I won't get hurt on this one $$ wise. Thanks for joining me on my treasure hunt!

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After Blue Ribbon coin conditioner which I'm almost out of



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 Posted 01/05/2019  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Much improved, congrats!
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