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Are You Saving Memorial Cents From Circulation? Even The Zinc Ones?

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I am. Getting nice Memorial Cents from circulation is difficult these days.

Going through a roll these days gives me an estimated:

(25) Shield Cents
(5) 95% Copper Memorial Cents, 3-4 are usually culls.
(20) Zinc Memorial Cents, and only about 3-5 still look decent XF/AU+ without spots, discoloration, blemishes, zinc bubbling or stains.

Thoughts? Is the Memorial cent going the way of the Wheat cent?





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The copper Memorials 1959-1982 just might be going the way of the wheat cents but only because of all the hoarding of them by copper wolf hounds waiting to strike it rich when the U.S. permits copper cents to be melted .
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High grade examples are getting scarce. Luckily over the years, I have saved many tubes and tubes to be gone through later.
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A complicated subject for sure, but even a glance at copper Memorial production levels is dizzying. I'll say this without reservation: Saving common copper coins for their potential melt value is a fool's errand.
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I have already saved quite a few thousand.

Your right, I've been saying this for years. YES, they made billions and billions but....

1) Many have been lost to attrition.
2) 99+% of circulation finds are junk.
3) Dealers and most collectors don't care to mess with them (the old billions argument). Makes finding good examples difficult.
4) Gem level coins are very difficult to find.
5) Most hoarded rolls have been improperly stored.
6) Hoping to find an MS-68 in a OBW/BU roll or mint set ends in disappointment far more often than joy.
7) Out of the billions 95+% are MS-63 or lower.

And I probably left out a few.
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I only saved the gems.A recent post.
http://goccf.com/t/336078
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The current value of the piles of them I saved 45 years ago versus simple inflation makes my answer "no". A few nice ones, sure, why not.
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It depends on the motivation. If you save them as an investment you will lose, there just is not enough to be gained even by saving the copper ones except in the highest grades.

With that said, I save all the coppers I find, just as I wish I had for silver in the 60's when silver was still found fairly often.

I toss my keepers (copper pennies, the occasional silver dime or quarter, 50's and older nickels and foreigns...) into a dish and when it gets full or I am really bored I then integrate them into my hoards, either into plastic tubes or 2x2's. When I fill a plastic tube with the date/mint I roll them for archiving. I expect my kids will either sell or dump them after we pass on to the great bourse in the sky. I hope by then they will appreciate coins as I do.

I have not started to save the Zinc LMC's yet, I suppose it may still be way too early for that as they have only been less than 10 years since they made them. If I did that then I suppose I would have to start saving pre-2004 Jefferson nickels and Washington quarters from before the Statehood series.
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It depends on the motivation. If you save them as an investment you will lose
I agree. I am saving them from the inevitable great melt (copper) or mass disintegration (zinc).
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Mint sets are a great way to get good looking memorial cents. Usually problem free
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People take memorials for granted. The attitude seems to be that they made too many billions to save them so they'll have to save themselves.

They didn't.

Most of the finest examples did go into mint sets. These coins were struck under higher pressure by new dies so there's a far better chance of finding very well made coins. The trick is to find the ones that weren't mangled being put into the mint sets.
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w/ cladking

Mint sets are one of the problems. Most dealers think you and rip one open and find an MS-68 coin in every one of them. They also think you can open a roll and find one easily. WRONG!
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I have not started to save the Zinc LMC's yet, I suppose it may still be way too early for that as they have only been less than 10 years since they made them.


Actually, you're way too late to the party. Over the past 4-5 years the proportion of Shield cents have gradually increased in bank boxes/bags. Memorials are getting quickly lost to attrition. Mint sets are getting opened and dumped at face, rolls are usually improperly stored, and what's left is just garbage MS-63 and below.
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Not any more! Last year I dumped out most of my copper cents (I forgot the weight, but I got just over $120.00 cash for them). I have another jug full that I'll look through to see if I have some nice quality ones to replace lesser ones in my sets; but I'll dispose of those soon too!
I've never saved any zincs aside from my two sets.

I don't consider ANY circulated Memorial cents are worth more than one cent each. The 2x2's they are in are worth more than the actual coins.
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I'm not sure why the brass memorials are more rare to find on the coastlines. Here in the midwest our bank rolls/boxes show about 27-28% of circulating is still brass. The average I would find for wheats in a $25 bank box used to be about 12, now it's more like 7-10 or so. But, that depends, hoards or buckets will come into a bank and sometimes you get a better box. I'm surprised how many people just save their pennies in jars, they don't separate them at all. I know someone who saves all his pennies, he fills a jar and into basement storage, he does slough off the wheats separate though.

Copper would have to go up more for them to be worth anything in regard to melt due to refining costs.

They do have some use. Fill a half gallon jar or tin and makes a good door stop is about the best use I have found so far. They are dirty, and they stink.

Meanwhile, the mint is still churning out allot of them, about 8 billion+/year. Yet, many retailers are beginning to round up/down already, and the take a penny jar at gas stations are not going away either, the money lost is in the labor of dealing with having to count or give them out in change, thus slowing down the next customer transaction.

It is not altogether true that saving them as an investment you will lose. They still have their face value, but where you will lose is inflation since the money could be put into something that has yield or return. Sorting them is a losing proposition at best unless you find a rare penny that has value, more than likely the time would be better spent working a regular job, then taking that money and buying coin with numismatic potential.

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I do, for all the reasons. I also save the best coins of each new year in a tube. I have OBW rolls of each year Lincoln. I feel tha the quality for some reason is way down and they discolor and disintigrate way faster than other zinclins
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