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Need Help With This 1944-S Wheat Penny

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Is this lamination error? or d over s also looks like there a S below

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To the CCF

Might be a lam. Would like to see more.
Can you post a picture of the whole Obverse right side up?
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Nice delamination.
The section became detached before the coin was struck.
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Jimmyd thank you.
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Note the ghost images in the void area? That shows that the lamination peeled off after the strike. I fell that during the setup of the blanks that turning them into planchets, that action, loosens the laminations. Sometimes falling off before the strike, but most of the time they fall off after the strike.
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Coop , you might need to add after strike
"Peeled off - after strike -"
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Thank you all for your help.
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Stoneman, if delamination fell off after the strike, the ghost image would not be there. At least that is my understanding.

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Is this lamination error? or d over s also looks like there a S below

Lamination issue after strike yes. D over S no. Seems to be a S mint mark to me.

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if delamination fell off after the strike, the ghost image would not be there.

Sometimes we need to think like the coin, sometimes we need to think like the die and sometimes like both. If a void is present in the planchet below the dies field level was present prior to strike, it will not show raised below the field level on the coin.

If the coin/planchet was struck with the lamination area or flaw in place, it will typically transfer the impression below the field or the later exposed surface area of the coin and show signs after the defect has fallen away or been removed. Thanks, Doug.
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I want to thank you all for your knowledge on this coin. I Just started being interested in error coin's
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Good eye and congrats! A great example.



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that's pretty cool
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