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Have These Mercury Dimes All Been Dipped?

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I also added this as a comment to the recent "cleaned coins" discussion thread, but since these auctions end today, just wanted to see if I could get others' thoughts.

They all have the same appearance, very uniform color and seemingly no luster. I considered maybe a bid on the 1919-D if bidding stays around $20. Does PCGS/NGC straight grade AU coins if they have zero luster? I can't tell if it is just the lighting or if these coins really look like this (dark gray-green almost). I'm guessing they could retone if left exposed on a shelf somewhere.


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For the 4 coins have they been cleaned, my votes are: no, maybe, yes, yes
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llewellin -
thanks. what's the giveaway on the last two that you aren't seeing on the 19-D?
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Hard to tell from these pictures. I'll say the first one isn't cleaned, the second one is, the third one has an old cleaning, and the fourth one is cleaned.

These are just some educated guesses...the image quality is not optimal for evaluating surface originality.
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Agree pics don't give you a whole lot to go on. Are you suggesting they have been cleaned and then re-toned?
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First one looks good to me, the other three have certainly been cleaned in the past.
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I think the first one is original surfaces. Second one hard to tell. Last 2 look cleaned.
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Are you suggesting they have been cleaned and then re-toned?


Essentially yes. None of these really have an "original" look to them. Seems like they look different than 90% of the Mercury dimes on ebay. This dark toning just seems very uniform across the devices and fields, which I was thinking is suggestive of some kind of polishing/cleaning. Also, where is the luster on the 1919-D. In this state of preservation (i.e., limited wear), we'd expect luster. So the seller is just very bad at taking photos, or the luster just isn't there.

Others' thoughts?
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Looks like there's luster on the 1919-D to me. It's possible it could have been dipped and retoned but if so it wasn't a harsh dip, so I doubt it. Still plenty of luster it looks like, you would just need better lighting to make it pop through the toning.
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The 1919-D is up to $56, I'm gonna pass on this one. There's an obv rim ding at 6 o'clock and luster is a bit too subtle in these photos. I guess I see some flow lines in obv fields near "Y" and near "LI", and maybe some on rev but more would better in my opinion. I find it odd that all four specimens have similar coloring, and at least two look polished. So I'm guessing it is just funky lighting and maybe the toning isn't really that dark.

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Of all of them, the second one has the best eye appeal in my opinion and seems to be the highest grade.
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Well, that went for more than I expected. Then again, it does look to be FSB.
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Here's my rule of thumb: if I'm not sure whether a coin is cleaned then I pass on it. I like coins in their natural state and I'd rather have a rough coin than a cleaned coin.
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The 1st Coin ( 1919-D ) look's like it was a Metal Detecting Find and has Environmental damage

The 1926-S Mercury looks the same to me as I look into the denticle's .


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Mercury dimes can be tricky as to whether or not the surfaces are original. Here is one of mine.
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